DonnieG

Hi I am new to the Porsche world and would like to know your opinions on this car. Looking to get into the collector end of it. How will this car compare to the 94, 97 turbos as far as values? Car is located at www.carsourceusa.com
Thanks
DonnieG
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Wachuko

You need to first determine if this is an original Turbo S... also the car in the link does not have the orginal wheels (if original, which I doubt, why in the world would they have changed the speedlines for that crap??)

Let me find the link to the Turbo S website...

Wachuko

Here you go: http://www.flachbau.com/1994s.html

From that site:
In December 1993, prior to the introduction of the 993 platform as a R.O.W. model in 1994, and at the very end of the model run for the 964 Turbo, Porsche A.G.'s VRS Department (also known as Exclusive or Special Works) decided to build a very special series of hand built Turbo 3.6 cars featuring a slanted front end labeled by the factory as 'Flachbau' in Germany (German for flat form or flat construction) and 'Flatnose' in the United States and the rest of the world (ROW). An integral part of the cars specification was the factory's optionally available X88 'S' motor. The car was

called the '1994 Turbo 3.6 S Flatnose' ('Flachbau' on the German factory invoice), and it was to be the last of the hand built Porsche 911 production cars.

So it looks like a conversion rather than the real deal...

Wachuko

So back to your question... cars tend to appraise based on originality... in this case it was a 92 turbo that was converted... so, unless you find someone willing to pay for that, you are better off finding a pristine original example of a Turbo or a real Turbo S... anything outside of the original/unmodified car will not hold its value as good as the original item.

Of course there are exception to the rule... think Ruf yellow bird...

Wachuko

That one looks like:

Flatnose Fake #4 - VIN 480101 - Is built on a 1992 3.3 Turbo.

http://www.flachbau.com/fakes.html

jimq

That is a stupid price if its not factory.

kleinbbc2

I think I seen that car on ebay a year ago. Claimed it was randy johnson car the baseball player. It was for sale for 40k?? Car was in Fl at that time.

Computamedic

There was a series of cars produced in 1992 specifically for the US market called Turbo S2 based on the 3.3 Turbo engine - and there WERE only 20 produced. None were factory produced as flatnoses - but the advert DOES say that it's a conversion.

The ROW version was called a Turbo S and there was one recently came to the market here in the UK previously owned by Nick Faldo, the golfer, and that was up for sale for £68,000 - that's a staggering $130,000+ - so the pricing of this one doesn't seem too bad to me.

Regards

Dave

ltc

Spoiler definitely looks wrong

Robert CH

Here you can find some pictures of original examples...

http://www.mobile.de/SID3PiJ5xMJxfvn...1111277244603&

or...

http://www.mobile.de/SID3PiJ5xMJxfvn...1111272112245&

Kind regards,
Robert

Henrik964

and it says flat nose conversion....

cobalt

As others said. This is a conversion as stated. Not sure if they are claiming 1 of 20 flachbau conversions or if it is one of the 20 Andial modified S2's. In either case if it were a real S2 the value is destroyed once it was converted, If it is just a stock 92 converted it appears to be a nice job other than the MAShaw tail which does not look like the true flachbau tail. The price is still absurdly high maybe $50k for someone looking for a unique ride but no where near worth the asking price.

here is a picture of a real S2 and a real flachbau. The white S2 is # 19 and has had the brakes and wheels updated from standard medium S4's to big reds and 18's vs the stock 17" cup 1's.

aeroman

that red car is fugly, specially with them wheels.

Wachuko

and also says is a Turbo S... which is not...

pcarcraig

There was a 1992 turbo S2, and indeed there were only 20 imported into the us as a homologation special for the IMSA series. It looks like both the front and rear quarter panels have been modified to make the car look like a Turbo 3.6S. If it is a turbo S2 then even in it's modified state it should be worth more than a standard C2 turbo. However modifications to a rare car would reduce the value, and the only way towards recouping that value would be to restore the panels to original specification, which would be an expensive undertaking.