Do you drive in the rain?
11-01-2002, 02:55 PM
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Do you drive in the rain?
I have to see just how **** I am when it comes to driving in the rain. In searching the threads I only saw a poll on winterizing or not. (Interesting reading)I know that there are several types of P-car owners out there. Let's hear from you.
I try not to drive mine in the rain only because I don't want the hours of clean-up involved in a full detail. I want to make sure that every time I pull out of the garage its nice and shiny. I try to drive my 90 C-2 as often as possible, weather permitting. Yet I've heard that there are many people who drive in the rain and snow.
Forgive me if this is a tired subject between any of you. I'm just curious.
Rick
I try not to drive mine in the rain only because I don't want the hours of clean-up involved in a full detail. I want to make sure that every time I pull out of the garage its nice and shiny. I try to drive my 90 C-2 as often as possible, weather permitting. Yet I've heard that there are many people who drive in the rain and snow.
Forgive me if this is a tired subject between any of you. I'm just curious.
Rick
11-01-2002, 03:14 PM
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Yes, I drive in the rain. I also drive on the track where little pieces or rubber rain down on my nice, shiny car. It's just too good to let sit plus it's a C4!
Anything but snow.
Anything but snow.
11-01-2002, 03:19 PM
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Well, my 83 SC was a daily driver, and now my 93 C2 will be my daily driver. As such, I drive it in any weather, EXCEPT snow. Nor do I drive it if the roads are still slushy or wet from salt/sand.
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When it snows, we take the car with the dedicated snow tires - currently, my wife's new BMW 330 CI convertible.
In the past, it was our 740il that had the snow tires, but my wife got tired of driving a really big car back and forth for work. She loves her new bimmer!
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When it snows, we take the car with the dedicated snow tires - currently, my wife's new BMW 330 CI convertible.
In the past, it was our 740il that had the snow tires, but my wife got tired of driving a really big car back and forth for work. She loves her new bimmer! Chuck
11-01-2002, 03:44 PM
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Yep, me too rain = ok - snow = no go.
One of the reasons I bought the C4 and not the C2 was the extra ability in the wet.
........that said I got caught in an Ohio rainstorm not so long ago - roof down, figured I was on the interstate so could go fast enough not to get wet - ran into traffic at the same time that the heavens opened. I had to pull off the road, and by the time my top was in place I almost had the first 964 with its own, indoors swimming pool!
I'd recommend good wax and one of the "quick shine" products (Griot make a good one - I've no connection) to keep your beauty shining.
One of the reasons I bought the C4 and not the C2 was the extra ability in the wet.
........that said I got caught in an Ohio rainstorm not so long ago - roof down, figured I was on the interstate so could go fast enough not to get wet - ran into traffic at the same time that the heavens opened. I had to pull off the road, and by the time my top was in place I almost had the first 964 with its own, indoors swimming pool!
I'd recommend good wax and one of the "quick shine" products (Griot make a good one - I've no connection) to keep your beauty shining.
11-01-2002, 05:05 PM
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Mine's a daily driver. In Western Washington, that means rain. We don't salt our roads out here, so ice/snow isn't a concern. I can't think of a better car to be in in the shallow snow and ice. With the right tires of course(tyres for you UK folks.) I think that the car sitting too much is just as damaging as dealing with the downsides of rain, IMSHO. (In my semi-humble opionion!) 
11-01-2002, 05:32 PM
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Rick:
Now you know. You're pretty ****. I drive in the rain, but probably would give it up if I felt the need to fully detail the car every time it got wet.
I hope you can loosen up a bit and learn to drive in the rain without feeling the need to do a full detail afterward.
Now, driving it in the heat or cold is another matter entirely. I won't drive it if it's over 85, or under 35 degrees F.
Now you know. You're pretty ****. I drive in the rain, but probably would give it up if I felt the need to fully detail the car every time it got wet.
I hope you can loosen up a bit and learn to drive in the rain without feeling the need to do a full detail afterward.
Now, driving it in the heat or cold is another matter entirely. I won't drive it if it's over 85, or under 35 degrees F.
11-01-2002, 05:50 PM
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Rick:
I'm one of the idiots that checks the radar on the internet before heading out with the car if the weather is questionable. I agree, it's too hard to clean the car up (to my standards) after getting caught in the rain.
The previous owner of my car got the thing wet about 4 times during his ownership and I've been caught twice in heavy rain coming back from events. I'd rent a car before having to drive it in the snow...
Yeah, I know, I'll probably get kicked out of here... But it's nice to have a corrosion free 12+ year old car... Plus, if a person concours a car, you just can't get it wet 'cause you end up erasing hours of previous work. That water and dirt gets everywhere...
My brother does the same (no rain/snow) with his '82.
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I'm one of the idiots that checks the radar on the internet before heading out with the car if the weather is questionable. I agree, it's too hard to clean the car up (to my standards) after getting caught in the rain.
The previous owner of my car got the thing wet about 4 times during his ownership and I've been caught twice in heavy rain coming back from events. I'd rent a car before having to drive it in the snow...
Yeah, I know, I'll probably get kicked out of here... But it's nice to have a corrosion free 12+ year old car... Plus, if a person concours a car, you just can't get it wet 'cause you end up erasing hours of previous work. That water and dirt gets everywhere...
My brother does the same (no rain/snow) with his '82.
Jay
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11-01-2002, 06:13 PM
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So, Jim, do you drive your p-car if the Hokies (or is it Hokkies) lose? All those tears are might wet! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
Who is up tomorrow, Pitt?
Should be a good game.
chuck
Who is up tomorrow, Pitt?
Should be a good game.
chuck
11-01-2002, 06:20 PM
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I usually check the internet for rain chances also. I have only driven my C4Cab about four or
five times in the rain. We got caught along the
Texas coast last month when there were storms in
the Gulf. We encounted water that was 6-18 inches on the highways. C4's will lose traction
at 60-70 mph under these conditions. I didn't
notice any leaks from blowing rain in the cabin.
I love driving in fair weather with the top down.
This is as close to heaven as a Porsche owner can
get.
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five times in the rain. We got caught along the
Texas coast last month when there were storms in
the Gulf. We encounted water that was 6-18 inches on the highways. C4's will lose traction
at 60-70 mph under these conditions. I didn't
notice any leaks from blowing rain in the cabin.
I love driving in fair weather with the top down.
This is as close to heaven as a Porsche owner can
get.
<img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" />
11-01-2002, 06:29 PM
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Pitt and VT @ 7:30 and freezing (too cold to drive the Porsche afterwards). The cats should certainly test the Hokies, and will win if the Hokies play as they have the last two games. Pitt's two losses came in very close games against very good teams.
11-01-2002, 07:09 PM
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I sold my 91 C4 when I got my new TTX50. The C4 was a great winter car. The guy who bought it can't wait for the snow to start.No rust, by the way.
I learned my lesson when I bought a 1967 Excalibus SSK (a very fun car by the way) from a guy who never got it wet. I got caught in the rain, top off, on my way home. The car recovered fine. In fact, when Autoweek came out to drive it for the back page article they used to have, it went out in the rain again.
I used to drive my previous 1980 SC thru the winter on the original PirelliP\ P7's- and it was great too. The guy who bought it from me lives about 10 miles away, so I can tell you that the car still has no rust and shines up perfectly. That's 22 years later, so I don't know what all the fear is about.
I had a 90 Cab tip that was fine in the rain but poor in the snow until I switched the tires. My tt is fine in the snow as delivered.
So, my question is what is everybody saving the car for? I understand the concour thing, but is it really worth giving up months of driving enjoyment for the rare time you show it? My view is that it was only a 100 point car once, and the happiest person about all the "no bad weather" stuff is the next owner. AS
I learned my lesson when I bought a 1967 Excalibus SSK (a very fun car by the way) from a guy who never got it wet. I got caught in the rain, top off, on my way home. The car recovered fine. In fact, when Autoweek came out to drive it for the back page article they used to have, it went out in the rain again.
I used to drive my previous 1980 SC thru the winter on the original PirelliP\ P7's- and it was great too. The guy who bought it from me lives about 10 miles away, so I can tell you that the car still has no rust and shines up perfectly. That's 22 years later, so I don't know what all the fear is about.
I had a 90 Cab tip that was fine in the rain but poor in the snow until I switched the tires. My tt is fine in the snow as delivered.
So, my question is what is everybody saving the car for? I understand the concour thing, but is it really worth giving up months of driving enjoyment for the rare time you show it? My view is that it was only a 100 point car once, and the happiest person about all the "no bad weather" stuff is the next owner. AS
11-01-2002, 08:03 PM
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My C4's PO drove it like it was a toyota -ungaraged, and daily driven, all year round in Scotland for 4 years.(roads are salted at the first suggestion of frost here.)
Me, I'm going to do the same. I have just arranged for a guy to gently steam clean, dry and 'waxoyl' all the underside nooks and crannies, plus also the inner door cavities.
I am then going to love driving past terrified Ferrari owners in their wife's Nissan micras, and cream past fishtailing TVR pilots trying to survive roundabouts (Uk intersection arrangement).
I was bought a Porsche sled last Christmas, which fits in it's case perfectly on the rear luggage tray. Me and the C4 are going to Glenshee to roadtest it as soon as that Waxoyl dries!
PS The car still shines up like a beaut.
Me, I'm going to do the same. I have just arranged for a guy to gently steam clean, dry and 'waxoyl' all the underside nooks and crannies, plus also the inner door cavities.
I am then going to love driving past terrified Ferrari owners in their wife's Nissan micras, and cream past fishtailing TVR pilots trying to survive roundabouts (Uk intersection arrangement).
I was bought a Porsche sled last Christmas, which fits in it's case perfectly on the rear luggage tray. Me and the C4 are going to Glenshee to roadtest it as soon as that Waxoyl dries!
PS The car still shines up like a beaut.
11-01-2002, 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Alexander Stemer:
"My view is that it was only a 100 point car once, and the happiest person about all the "no bad weather" stuff is the next owner."
Good point! The last owner said that it was never driven in the rain and it shows. (you're right... I'm happy!) Everything is spotless down to the last nook and cranny. I guess I just fear that if I start driving it in inclement weather that I'll never be able to get it as clean as it is now. I guess I do need to loosen up a little though. I've been caught in the rain coming home a few times (the forecasters around here are never right!) and it seems none the worse for wear. It just takes a little more time to get it back in shape. I bought the complete zymol kit and will try to wax it this weekend (Since I was caught in the rain today). HA!
Thanks for all the input guys.
Rick
"My view is that it was only a 100 point car once, and the happiest person about all the "no bad weather" stuff is the next owner."
Good point! The last owner said that it was never driven in the rain and it shows. (you're right... I'm happy!) Everything is spotless down to the last nook and cranny. I guess I just fear that if I start driving it in inclement weather that I'll never be able to get it as clean as it is now. I guess I do need to loosen up a little though. I've been caught in the rain coming home a few times (the forecasters around here are never right!) and it seems none the worse for wear. It just takes a little more time to get it back in shape. I bought the complete zymol kit and will try to wax it this weekend (Since I was caught in the rain today). HA!
Thanks for all the input guys.
Rick
11-01-2002, 09:39 PM
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I live in southern UK - I drove my 3 yr old son to school in the rain and we span out on a right turn ended up (because Id only had the 93 c2 tip one mth) across two lanes... I was next day in a BMW dealer looking at a 4star ncap rated 325coupe..... ten days later sense prevailed 1 set of bridgestone so3's + 600£ the poorer Ive driven my 911 2000 miles in the wet as my daily driver... that was my education, that spin , and the terror of the spin , has taught me to treat the car with respect and 'feed the power gently'. She's fine and I'm fine.. she holds the road better than my previous company supplied A4 quatro and I still love the car. Phoned BMW only48 hrs ago to say 'forget the trade in - im keeping the C2'....
These cars are there to be driven - and if you know how they behave - then they will... dont keep a 10 year old car pristeen - because its not worth it leave that to the concours and the 996 lease boys.....
just remember why you bought a 10 yrs + 911 - because you a) Wanted One and b) could afford it.... they're a delight and they'll keep you safe and sound if you treat them right and keep good tread on those rubber shoes.
These cars are there to be driven - and if you know how they behave - then they will... dont keep a 10 year old car pristeen - because its not worth it leave that to the concours and the 996 lease boys.....
just remember why you bought a 10 yrs + 911 - because you a) Wanted One and b) could afford it.... they're a delight and they'll keep you safe and sound if you treat them right and keep good tread on those rubber shoes.