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Wow, get some pictures up! Silver is my favourite colour for a car, I would have loved my 964 in silver, my other 3 Porsches are silver.
I believe mine to not have head gaskets, I have no idea if they have ever been removed, it certainly doesn't look like it and I don't have any receipts to suggest it. I have a mist around one of the barrels, where it meets the head but a few guys have said, unless it develops into a trip, leave it. I just figured that I'll keep running it until it needs a top end rebuild rather than pull the engine out now. It sounds good, runs perfect so I can't justify it over an mist of oil on one cylinder.
I always get tempted by cups and the cup mirrors but then it just looks like everyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy other 964.. I take some satisfaction in not seeing many with the flag and D90 combo. I do prefer the look of the cup setup but I just find that I stop myself from following the look, I even have a set of cup wheels!! I may try them one day. I plan to just add some spacers behind the D90's to fill the arches a bit more.
Put some pics of yours up!
I'll get some pics up just as soon as it arrives - it's due in at Southampton this coming Wednesday - I am so excited, and a little nervous....eeeeek!!!! :-D It's got a RUF style front bumper fitted that I'm not too happy about so that'll be replaced first.
And you know what, you're right. Silver IS THE BEST COLOUR for a Porsche :-P
Seems to make sense to leave the motor as is and also reassuring to hear that these gasketless heads aren't spraying oil all over the place. And you're dead right about every man and his dog having teardrop mirrors etc. So many 964s have been played with and it's refreshing to see one keeping it as Porsche intended. But if you ever want to sell your Cups (assuming their OG), I'd happily have them :-) I believe mine are Cup replicas - they make me eyes hurt, they just don't look quite right. I should know this time next week :-)
Keep the post going....I'm loving the detail and you're giving me loads of ideas.
You weren't far from where I am but great move either way, would love to do the same!
Been a while since updates, haven't been up to too much with the car but got a lot planned now.
The 1 and only thing I really did over lock down was fit some caps missing from my decklid, I would have never known about these but an eagle eyed viewer on instagram let me know about them.
Fast forward to September, I found some 5mm spacers, spot the difference, no I can't see any either. Have another set for the front and will see how it looks overall then but I think at least 10 would be required on the rear.
MOT, sailed through although once done, it did fail to start.
Picked up some minor battle wounds on the front bumper, I'll be able to put more info on this later but was a good little day out.
Dwarfed by a Taycan
I am thinking that I need to find a non wiper rear glass, just to clean the rear end up, I will never ever use it so I may as well lose it.
Currently fitting an active subwoofer behind rear seat and many new upgrades coming.
Car's looking nice. During lockdown I fitted a Kenwood underseat sub, which fits just fine under the passenger seat. I also fitted a Kenwood Bluetooth amp under the passenger seat to stream Spotify etc. This way you can stick with the factory head unit. With some upgraded speaker in the rear stock grills it works great, sounds pretty good. I'll send you links if you're interested.
That would be great, really want the kenwood underseat sub, i think it is the lowest profile one you can get.
Brake job complete, finally.
Fronts were pretty straight forward until it came to replacing one of the bleed nipples with a stainless version, I ended up fitting it on the **** and completely threading the caliper! Rather than repair, I bought a pair of replacement calipers to rebuild and fit to replace both fronts. Quite annoying but I like to change brakes in pairs and rather than take a chance on a re-thread, I'd rather have a factory job.
Original disc and pads with what was to go on, EBC disc and Yellowstuff pads.
New bits on, just after the thread strip! Doh.
Caliper had to come off, annoyingly I could not undo the copper line that joins to the caliper, not such a problem as someone had remade the line and I wasn't too happy with the job, so it gave me a opportunity to rectify this.
New pipe made. I really want to replace all of the copper lines but that's a job for a winter.
Braided lines to replace the original rubber versions
Expected aggravation
some new ones of these
Replacement and rebuilt, refreshed caliper, ready for another 30 years, or until Singer buy the car and bin it.
Back on it's wheels and ready to test!
All because I wanted to see a 4 pot through the spokes.
Well, the brakes need bedding in properly this didn't happen, however, the pedal already feel much more solid, it was pretty spongey before but now the brakes feel sharp and it wants to stop. Looking forward to properly bedding these in to see how they do. Anyway, I had to cut my bedding in short as a misfire has reappeared. I had one a while back which led me to rebuild the dizzy system, well, the only parts I haven't changed are the coils and the leads. So I thought I would change the coils.
So coils have now been replaced.
However, it seems the car doesn't want to fire up without throttle. I have always been able to just reach in and turn the car on. Once it has been started, it can sometimes be started without throttle, it's a bit hit or miss.. Need to investigate that but as a start. I'm told it probably needs an adaptation with the hammer tool.. The revs seems to fluctuate as you'll hear in the youtube vid below,
speakers in the rear parcel shelf. They fit underneath the stock speaker grills just fine. You wouldn't know that they weren't stock. You just need to trim the bases to the speaker grills with a dremmel to fit. I'm running factory speakers in the doors. Sounds great with the Kenwood Bluetooth amp and no need for a head unit. I have the control for the Bluetooth amp fitted where the head unit would be, but I'm going to hide it within the ashtray and have a smooth, radio-less dash:
Kenwood Bluetooth amp controller mounted into the dash but plan to hide it within the ashtry. Use your phone to stream music and radio and can also connect to a classic head unit if required.
Last edited by mundo-kombi; 05-29-2021 at 11:07 AM.
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Wow, I love that and the idea of totally hiding it away, great work, please update me on how you go! I pretty much stream everything from my phone, including DAB radio so I could easily do away with the headunit and fit a blank, I could do with this in 1 of my other cars for sure.
So yeah, coils didn't fix the issue but the story I'm about to tell will give you the answer to what my issues were...
Well, had some excitement here but not the kind I like, it seems the chasing of the misfire I had been doing above, was in the wrong direction and I found out the hard way.
I was readying the 964, for a run to the Fairmile meet, started with a minor issue which resulting in me spotting that the MAF had come loose. Refitted that and all was well, a short drive and the misfire was back, this time, NO power whatsoever, then a BANG and lots of smoke!
Pulled over, which happened to be in the EXACT spot I broke down last time and open the decklid to clouds of smoke but no flame (that I could see) but smoke was coming out from places I couldn't see. Tried starting the car to see if I could see anything going on, the car started but cut out instantly followed by lots of smoke, I ran round the back to see fire, fortunately, I was able to blow it out.
The same bloody spot I broke down in last time
Evidence of fire..
Deformed lower intake joiner
Recovery arrived and the next issue was that the tow eye which came with my car, wasn't the right one and the guy didn't want to pull the car by a wishbone, so we had to get some helpful people to help push (no one around) or start it. I said no, no way we can start it as it caught fire the last time, so what did we do, started it again and yep, fires back. At least this time, I got to see exactly where it was coming from and spotted fuel leaking out of the lower intake manifold! (WHAT!!) Blew it out again and said, that's why I wasn't keen.
Anyway, we found a helpful chap who helped us get it up the ramp easily enough.
Back in the garage, totally confused as to what was wrong, I had pretty much decided on sending it in to someone to sort, I was done and pretty short on time to be messing around problem solving at the moment.
Then, I got a message on instagram with a story from someone who had the same thing, fuel pressure regulator!! It made instant sense, that's how the fuel is getting up there. The diaphragm in the FPR becomes weak and with the vaccuum pressure, fuel is sucked into the manifold which then causes bad running, also, fuel pressure is not held which results in longer cranking times.
So, now I had a lead, I could set about on a resolution.
I found an OEM FPR to be too expensive for what is is, so I looked into alternatives and of course, found some innovative ideas from guys in the US. I was put onto 928sRUS. They supply billet FPR housings which hold a generic regulator. Great idea, if it ever fails again or anyone wants to upgrade it, it will be cheap and easy. So I bought it! $250 + shipping, I think the total was £209. Great
While I awaited the arrival of the FPR, I set to work on the strip down and to access the damage. This is the first time I have removed the intake and was looking forward to it, all straight forward, just so many damn pipes!!
I plan on attempting to tidy this lot up, what a mess!
Inside intake, can see where fuel had pooled up.
All apart and the only damage was the 2 rubber joiners on the drivers side, between the TB and cast intake, phew!! While in there, I have been able to clean a few bits up, found that the jubilee on the oil breather was completely loose, resulting in oil residue around the local area.
One of the fuel hoses was a pain to undo while in the car, so I ended up undoing it from the fuel rail side and then undoing it from the FPR in a bench vice.
A loose jubilee resulted in some oil weeping
While going this far, I removed the injector, noticed that some of the caps were melted, so I have sent those off to Injector Tune for a full refurb and while the fuel hoses seem perfectly fine, no cracked, bendy, no issues, I am going to pop into a local hoses specialist to see if they can supply the correct hose and re-crimp them onto the OEM end fittings. This should be straight forward and avoid the heavy costs of brand new parts from Porsche.
Also, I am going to rebuild the PAS pump as I do have a leak which then drops onto a heat exchanger, resulting in a bit of a smoke show.
So all in all, I got VERY lucky and once back together, it will be a better car
New FPR just arrived, literally just under 1 week from my order, all the way from Texas! I'll be heading to Porsche Brooklands tomorrow morning to collect a bunch of new parts, clips, rubber joiners, fuel filter, oil filter, heater pipe resistor (that's another thing which causes fires) and few odd bits. I hope to get the fuel lines done too if my local Pirtek (hose specialist) will do them, so as soon as my injectors arrive back, I can get it all buttoned up.
Old resistor but has the later part number, so not all bad, just old and wirth renewing as it looks a bit crusty.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!! Check your FPR's, if they are original, just change it! It's not worth the potential problem you may have. I had starting issues, fluctuating idle speed and misfire when under load, all out of nowhere really. I expect my starting and running to be perfect once back together.
A quick test, pull the vacuum line, see if it has fuel in it, some guys have pulled them to find fuel spills out. If you have starting issues, it could be a sign of a failing FPR.
Part 17 here
More to come soon!
No affiliation with the companies mentioned, just random guys I decided to use after doing some basic research and getting some good feedback on them.
As she sits, degreased, and cleaned as much as I can do for now.
[QUOTE=MarkGolf;17639512]Wow, I love that and the idea of totally hiding it away, great work, please update me on how you go! I pretty much stream everything from my phone, including DAB radio so I could easily do away with the headunit and fit a blank, I could do with this in 1 of my other cars for sure.
So yeah, coils didn't fix the issue but the story I'm about to tell will give you the answer to what my issues were...
Well, had some excitement here but not the kind I like, it seems the chasing of the misfire I had been doing above, was in the wrong direction and I found out the hard way.
I was readying the 964, for a run to the Fairmile meet, started with a minor issue which resulting in me spotting that the MAF had come loose. Refitted that and all was well, a short drive and the misfire was back, this time, NO power whatsoever, then a BANG and lots of smoke!
Pulled over, which happened to be in the EXACT spot I broke down last time and open the decklid to clouds of smoke but no flame (that I could see) but smoke was coming out from places I couldn't see. Tried starting the car to see if I could see anything going on, the car started but cut out instantly followed by lots of smoke, I ran round the back to see fire, fortunately, I was able to blow it out.
The same bloody spot I broke down in last time
Evidence of fire..
Deformed lower intake joiner
Recovery arrived and the next issue was that the tow eye which came with my car, wasn't the right one and the guy didn't want to pull the car by a wishbone, so we had to get some helpful people to help push (no one around) or start it. I said no, no way we can start it as it caught fire the last time, so what did we do, started it again and yep, fires back. At least this time, I got to see exactly where it was coming from and spotted fuel leaking out of the lower intake manifold! (WHAT!!) Blew it out again and said, that's why I wasn't keen.
Anyway, we found a helpful chap who helped us get it up the ramp easily enough.
Back in the garage, totally confused as to what was wrong, I had pretty much decided on sending it in to someone to sort, I was done and pretty short on time to be messing around problem solving at the moment.
Then, I got a message on instagram with a story from someone who had the same thing, fuel pressure regulator!! It made instant sense, that's how the fuel is getting up there. The diaphragm in the FPR becomes weak and with the vaccuum pressure, fuel is sucked into the manifold which then causes bad running, also, fuel pressure is not held which results in longer cranking times.
So, now I had a lead, I could set about on a resolution.
I found an OEM FPR to be too expensive for what is is, so I looked into alternatives and of course, found some innovative ideas from guys in the US. I was put onto 928sRUS. They supply billet FPR housings which hold a generic regulator. Great idea, if it ever fails again or anyone wants to upgrade it, it will be cheap and easy. So I bought it! $250 + shipping, I think the total was £209. Great
While I awaited the arrival of the FPR, I set to work on the strip down and to access the damage. This is the first time I have removed the intake and was looking forward to it, all straight forward, just so many damn pipes!!
I plan on attempting to tidy this lot up, what a mess!
Inside intake, can see where fuel had pooled up.
All apart and the only damage was the 2 rubber joiners on the drivers side, between the TB and cast intake, phew!! While in there, I have been able to clean a few bits up, found that the jubilee on the oil breather was completely loose, resulting in oil residue around the local area.
One of the fuel hoses was a pain to undo while in the car, so I ended up undoing it from the fuel rail side and then undoing it from the FPR in a bench vice.
A loose jubilee resulted in some oil weeping
While going this far, I removed the injector, noticed that some of the caps were melted, so I have sent those off to Injector Tune for a full refurb and while the fuel hoses seem perfectly fine, no cracked, bendy, no issues, I am going to pop into a local hoses specialist to see if they can supply the correct hose and re-crimp them onto the OEM end fittings. This should be straight forward and avoid the heavy costs of brand new parts from Porsche.
Also, I am going to rebuild the PAS pump as I do have a leak which then drops onto a heat exchanger, resulting in a bit of a smoke show.
So all in all, I got VERY lucky and once back together, it will be a better car
New FPR just arrived, literally just under 1 week from my order, all the way from Texas! I'll be heading to Porsche Brooklands tomorrow morning to collect a bunch of new parts, clips, rubber joiners, fuel filter, oil filter, heater pipe resistor (that's another thing which causes fires) and few odd bits. I hope to get the fuel lines done too if my local Pirtek (hose specialist) will do them, so as soon as my injectors arrive back, I can get it all buttoned up.
Old resistor but has the later part number, so not all bad, just old and wirth renewing as it looks a bit crusty.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!! Check your FPR's, if they are original, just change it! It's not worth the potential problem you may have. I had starting issues, fluctuating idle speed and misfire when under load, all out of nowhere really. I expect my starting and running to be perfect once back together.
A quick test, pull the vacuum line, see if it has fuel in it, some guys have pulled them to find fuel spills out. If you have starting issues, it could be a sign of a failing FPR.
Part 17 here
More to come soon!
No affiliation with the companies mentioned, just random guys I decided to use after doing some basic research and getting some good feedback on them.
As she sits, degreased, and cleaned as much as I can do for now.
Last edited by iangray100; 08-31-2021 at 11:53 AM.
Hi Mark , interesting issue and you’re on the same lines as myself as I have a kit of engine fuel hoses from Paul Mason in Detroit , a new Porsche fuel regulator ( had to wait for this ) as no world wide stock as I did look at the non OEM version, but went OEM as I didn’t want it to leak etc .
I have new pipes for the fuel tank In and Out new internal tank filter, and I’ve even got a new MAF air flow sensor from Porsche, as they do a trade-in for new one as a reasonable price ( I had an old one I brought cheaply off ebay so traded that in) . The one on the car ever 30+yrs old still works but will replace
And while I’m at it I’ll replace the fuel Pump for a new Bosch one and also replace the pipe work from the pump and I have a kit of Teflon stainless steel pipes for that as well with fittings .
02-08-2020, 06:03 PM
