My UK 964 C2 diary
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Oh wow, you're doing it properly, I wish I hadn't seen your post as that may start me on a slippery slope! I was thinking about changing the in tank filter and lines but I didn't want to disturb too much before I get it back up and running to ensure no other damage has occurred.
Very interested to know more about the fuel line kit, is there a link? Wouldn't mind taking a look in to that if I do not get success with Pirtek.
Very interested to know more about the fuel line kit, is there a link? Wouldn't mind taking a look in to that if I do not get success with Pirtek.
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Oh wow, you're doing it properly, I wish I hadn't seen your post as that may start me on a slippery slope! I was thinking about changing the in tank filter and lines but I didn't want to disturb too much before I get it back up and running to ensure no other damage has occurred.
Very interested to know more about the fuel line kit, is there a link? Wouldn't mind taking a look in to that if I do not get success with Pirtek.
Very interested to know more about the fuel line kit, is there a link? Wouldn't mind taking a look in to that if I do not get success with Pirtek.
Mark , Paul does the fuel lines just drop him a line , see this as a fuel line thread
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MarkGolf (09-02-2021)
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Great news Mark, look forward to the updates.
Any process you particularly followed for the intake removal or link you followed. Will check mine this winter though I think in the rebuild at 86k a lot of sensors, pipes etc were changed. Looks pretty clean back there.
This is Ruskiedog with the Forest Green Cab if you don't know ;o)
Any process you particularly followed for the intake removal or link you followed. Will check mine this winter though I think in the rebuild at 86k a lot of sensors, pipes etc were changed. Looks pretty clean back there.
This is Ruskiedog with the Forest Green Cab if you don't know ;o)
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MarkGolf (09-02-2021)
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Neat set up that to get rid of the head unit. Did you do a thread on the set up anywhere. Want to add a rear sub to mine and like this idea, apparently I don't have enough base in the car my son tells me! Upgraded my speakers all round, head unit and mini Alpine amp.
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I didn't follow anything, just dived in, it's all fairly straight forward, nothing scary about it, much easier than most other cars where I have pulled intakes off. You will have no problem, the drive belt in the dizzy cap unit thing was more difficult and you did that just fine
Small update..
Injectors back already, posted Friday, landed back on my door step Wednesday, that's how you provide a quick service!
Seriously impressed, old seals, filters and caps returned, injectors looking like new, full report sheet, care instructions and a nice bottle opener!
The report has me pretty excited to see if there are any noticeable differences to be had when up and running again, nice peace of mind with these now. Really good to see that these sorts of small businesses are still out there.
Thanks James at Injector Tune. https://www.injectortune.co.uk/
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Small update..
Injectors back already, posted Friday, landed back on my door step Wednesday, that's how you provide a quick service!
Seriously impressed, old seals, filters and caps returned, injectors looking like new, full report sheet, care instructions and a nice bottle opener!
The report has me pretty excited to see if there are any noticeable differences to be had when up and running again, nice peace of mind with these now. Really good to see that these sorts of small businesses are still out there.
Thanks James at Injector Tune. https://www.injectortune.co.uk/
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Thanks Mark. Will dive in! MOT came back all good, just some wear on inner front tires 😂 that'll be the lowering and spirited driving!
Injector report looks GREAT! I am sure you'll notice something! May be on my list depending on whether the sale of mine goes ahead.......
Injector report looks GREAT! I am sure you'll notice something! May be on my list depending on whether the sale of mine goes ahead.......
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Mark , I used these guys for mine ages ago ..made a big difference to the engine response . I did have two that were stuck closed after been cleaned ( the notes mentioned this might happen ) so with a little taping and under pressure, the cleaned injectors reopened .
I would recomend to test each one on a pressurrished Fuel set up before you put them all in ;-) been there got the tee shirt .
From memorey : I clipped then into the fuel rail with the injectors not in the engine and turned on the ignition to pressure them . I did a bank at time as you can start the engine on one bank to get the injectors to fire and then tap the stuck injector . Note Fuel mist will spray out so be carefull ;-) or make a home made rig .
Ive just contacted then today to get my spare set of injecotrs cleaned as they have been sitting on the side waiting
I would recomend to test each one on a pressurrished Fuel set up before you put them all in ;-) been there got the tee shirt .
From memorey : I clipped then into the fuel rail with the injectors not in the engine and turned on the ignition to pressure them . I did a bank at time as you can start the engine on one bank to get the injectors to fire and then tap the stuck injector . Note Fuel mist will spray out so be carefull ;-) or make a home made rig .
Ive just contacted then today to get my spare set of injecotrs cleaned as they have been sitting on the side waiting
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MarkGolf (09-07-2021)
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Good advice on the injectors, I have heard of that before! I'll work something out there as I won't want to pull them once I refit.
Thanks guys.
Trying to keep these rolling as I progress to avoid a single update which takes ages to put together.
All engine bay fuel lines removed. I am going to leave the main the larger ones as a project for another time (I may regret that). I'm eager to get the car up and running and once I know everything is good, I can plan the jobs for the winter period where it gets laid up. The larger pipes are accessible so I won't have to do this sort of disassembly to remove those.
Fuel lines removed
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They don't appear to be in too bad of a condition but after giving one a little flex, the outer layer held the pinch and just seems dry, so I think it's wise to replace.
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I have a plan for the fuel lines, I was going to go with the AN fittings but in the end, I'm going with an option which will be worry free and look equally as nice. Ninemeister, a well known UK Porsche specialist, known for creating some beautiful restorations have all of the equipment to remake the fuel lines, to a better than new, modern day specification, capable of dealing with E10 and higher fuel, the hose has an outer braiding which looks nice but most importantly, retains the original fittings, so it will all fit up nicely and be worry free. If I were to make up the AN lines, I would always have a worry in the back of my mind.
Picture pinched from google
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That's all I can do until I get the fuel lines back, so I turned my attention to the PAS pump, secondary backbox removed, the bracket for this gave me a real headache, the bolts were both rusty, 1 was seized into the sleeving which goes through the PAS belt cover area and the other, the one which had really difficult access was like a chocolate biscuit.
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I eventually got the lower one out and as much as I tried to be efficient and not remove the shock, I ended up removing the shock which enabled me to remove the upper bolts within minutes, after already spending way too long on being stubborn and trying to remove it with the shock in the way.
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Not so clean in there.
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I called it a day there, few new bolts and clips ordered to replace old items, fuel hoses due to be shipped up north, PAS pump to be removed and fitted with new seals.
Ohh need to get hold of a cam locking tool I believe, to remove the lower pulley!
That's all for now.
Thanks guys.
Trying to keep these rolling as I progress to avoid a single update which takes ages to put together.
All engine bay fuel lines removed. I am going to leave the main the larger ones as a project for another time (I may regret that). I'm eager to get the car up and running and once I know everything is good, I can plan the jobs for the winter period where it gets laid up. The larger pipes are accessible so I won't have to do this sort of disassembly to remove those.
Fuel lines removed
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51431483508_0c36e5df71_c.jpg)
They don't appear to be in too bad of a condition but after giving one a little flex, the outer layer held the pinch and just seems dry, so I think it's wise to replace.
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51432216350_b76c98ca98_c.jpg)
I have a plan for the fuel lines, I was going to go with the AN fittings but in the end, I'm going with an option which will be worry free and look equally as nice. Ninemeister, a well known UK Porsche specialist, known for creating some beautiful restorations have all of the equipment to remake the fuel lines, to a better than new, modern day specification, capable of dealing with E10 and higher fuel, the hose has an outer braiding which looks nice but most importantly, retains the original fittings, so it will all fit up nicely and be worry free. If I were to make up the AN lines, I would always have a worry in the back of my mind.
Picture pinched from google
![](https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/51979993_2108895962527238_440082174717198336_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=vfXfggybFfcAX_apnic&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=efd71114f4eb5ad2150c7dded572d544&oe=615BD26A)
That's all I can do until I get the fuel lines back, so I turned my attention to the PAS pump, secondary backbox removed, the bracket for this gave me a real headache, the bolts were both rusty, 1 was seized into the sleeving which goes through the PAS belt cover area and the other, the one which had really difficult access was like a chocolate biscuit.
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51432701262_4c33a82304_c.jpg)
I eventually got the lower one out and as much as I tried to be efficient and not remove the shock, I ended up removing the shock which enabled me to remove the upper bolts within minutes, after already spending way too long on being stubborn and trying to remove it with the shock in the way.
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51431483413_98363a0bb1_c.jpg)
Not so clean in there.
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51431988379_4142dc0215_c.jpg)
I called it a day there, few new bolts and clips ordered to replace old items, fuel hoses due to be shipped up north, PAS pump to be removed and fitted with new seals.
Ohh need to get hold of a cam locking tool I believe, to remove the lower pulley!
That's all for now.
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Small update,
PAS pump split and seals renewed. Hopefully that stops the leak it had
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Various stainless bolts for stuff
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Oil drained + filtered, filter removed and cut open, no big chunks, phew. i did see some glitter however..
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Removed the rear seal for PAS bracket, I nearly did not do this but I'm glad I did, the seal just crumbled!!
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New seals and a clean
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Replacing these while here, few age cracks on the areas of the hoses above the wheel
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New shaft seal, this has to be fitted once cover is in place!
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Pulley replaced and new PAS belt
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Pump back in place and ready to go again, new pump - bottle hose too, original was sweating.
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Pulled the plugs, they were all uniformed, all like this
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FUEL PIPES!
These are impressive, original fitting end but with modern day over braided hose, they look stunning! Made by a company called Ninemeister in the UK.
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588158496_42897e1889_c.jpg)
Combined with my 928sRus FPR! I'll remove the labels at some point
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Regretting not replating or painting the fuel rail but oh well, I just want to know that the engine is OK
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588375028_1d9fc9c0d2_c.jpg)
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Nearly there, next time I work on it, I'm hoping I can get the manifold back on, fill up with the cheap 10w/40 to use as a flushing oil and then give it a try! I'll be priming the fuel system by bridging the relay points (30 and 87 right?) to pressurise the system and make sure there are no leaks prior to the manifold going back.
PAS pump split and seals renewed. Hopefully that stops the leak it had
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51499149737_53f8b92104_c.jpg)
Various stainless bolts for stuff
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51434425885_13a61fdf5d_c.jpg)
Oil drained + filtered, filter removed and cut open, no big chunks, phew. i did see some glitter however..
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51502290281_ec6812929a_c.jpg)
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51501495387_037ac36569_c.jpg)
Removed the rear seal for PAS bracket, I nearly did not do this but I'm glad I did, the seal just crumbled!!
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51502290376_c829371e5c_c.jpg)
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New seals and a clean
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588376578_6191c2eaed_c.jpg)
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588160521_3eb246b3ab_c.jpg)
Replacing these while here, few age cracks on the areas of the hoses above the wheel
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51589058535_02b439c63f_c.jpg)
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588160286_aa8fc77483_c.jpg)
New shaft seal, this has to be fitted once cover is in place!
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588376123_c85d88ac58_c.jpg)
Pulley replaced and new PAS belt
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588160466_3a02609239_c.jpg)
Pump back in place and ready to go again, new pump - bottle hose too, original was sweating.
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588160056_897146e1bb_c.jpg)
Pulled the plugs, they were all uniformed, all like this
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51587321852_1987879f46_c.jpg)
FUEL PIPES!
These are impressive, original fitting end but with modern day over braided hose, they look stunning! Made by a company called Ninemeister in the UK.
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588158496_42897e1889_c.jpg)
Combined with my 928sRus FPR! I'll remove the labels at some point
]
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51589055915_625071a3d3_c.jpg)
Regretting not replating or painting the fuel rail but oh well, I just want to know that the engine is OK
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588375028_1d9fc9c0d2_c.jpg)
![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51588375878_ba7a28ef00_c.jpg)
Nearly there, next time I work on it, I'm hoping I can get the manifold back on, fill up with the cheap 10w/40 to use as a flushing oil and then give it a try! I'll be priming the fuel system by bridging the relay points (30 and 87 right?) to pressurise the system and make sure there are no leaks prior to the manifold going back.
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kos11-12 (04-30-2022)
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Those fuel lines look great. Nice photos in this thread. Ninemeister (Colin) does great work.
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Forgot to update here, so here it is. I got the car started and I'm happy to say, it's running better than it ever has in my ownership!! Started on the button and just sounds so much smoother. Not too many pictures as wasn't much to show and I was just keen to get it fired up to put my mind at ease or prepare the bank for the rebuild.
All buttoned back up, cleaned, filled with the 10w/40 oil (for flushing), engine primed a few times, it then fired up instantly and just settled at a normal cold idle. I then turned it off to quickly check fuel joints and around the engine, all good, so fired it back up and all was well, so left it for 5 mins to get some heat.
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I couldn't believe how good it sounded and throttle response is definitely better, I used to get a rich smell but that doesn't exist anymore (obviously) and the throttle always seemed to have some delay, so I think the combination of a working FPR and refreshed injectors have worked wonders here. I will take it out for a few drives to get it up to temperature and cycle the oil before dumping it and filling with millers 10/60 and fitting another new Purolator oil filter, then I can move forward with enjoying it again! (maybe not so much over winter)
Cheers
All buttoned back up, cleaned, filled with the 10w/40 oil (for flushing), engine primed a few times, it then fired up instantly and just settled at a normal cold idle. I then turned it off to quickly check fuel joints and around the engine, all good, so fired it back up and all was well, so left it for 5 mins to get some heat.
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I couldn't believe how good it sounded and throttle response is definitely better, I used to get a rich smell but that doesn't exist anymore (obviously) and the throttle always seemed to have some delay, so I think the combination of a working FPR and refreshed injectors have worked wonders here. I will take it out for a few drives to get it up to temperature and cycle the oil before dumping it and filling with millers 10/60 and fitting another new Purolator oil filter, then I can move forward with enjoying it again! (maybe not so much over winter)
Cheers
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From MarkGolf : Not much going on here, it's covered up in the garage while the distributors stripped down in the house, going to order some bearings from Diddi.
......can you please give me the address or email of DiddI?
......can you please give me the address or email of DiddI?
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