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When to buy Standalone ECU
09-24-2016, 01:54 PM
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Down here, The most common thing is to find your most preferred tuner, and get what he recommends. Because he knows how to use the software and hardware from the back of his head. You don't need tech support from the ECU manufacture.
If you're buying it so you can tune ect. Then yes, you want something with a lot of support, especially for the make of your car.
If you're buying it so you can tune ect. Then yes, you want something with a lot of support, especially for the make of your car.
09-26-2016, 07:15 AM
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I tuned Haltech PS1000 few months ago on Nissan 200SX with GT30R, big IC, blacktop 2.0 engine etc, had mixed opinions. I like the fact that you have free access to software etc (just download it and use without any special dongle etc like normal ECU's should be nowadays) but was less impressed with the software, more specificly its ease of use and lack of important (to me at least) parameters. The idle settings were extremely limited and I would not have complained about it if the idle was fine, it was not. Also acceleration enrichment control strategies could have been much better.
But I have seen worse ECU's so it was ok.
But I have seen worse ECU's so it was ok.
Nissan you tuned, did it used CAN wideband? If it did, does it work as intended?
09-26-2016, 07:25 AM
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Yes, it had CAN wideband and it worked quite well actually. Though tuning fuel table lacked the possibility of collecting all your wanted tables to one screen and adjust them. You needed to access each of them separately, greatly increasing tuning time.
I have tuned few Motecs, not the old DOS based but newer ones. Let's say that for the money you should expect better software. Their strentgh is their name and the straight-forward install that does not let you make mistakes. But also does not let you use your own head too much :P It's like Apple vs Android only Motec being Apple without the intuitivity
Tried and true is good but life moves on and we live in 2016 not 1996.
I have tuned few Motecs, not the old DOS based but newer ones. Let's say that for the money you should expect better software. Their strentgh is their name and the straight-forward install that does not let you make mistakes. But also does not let you use your own head too much :P It's like Apple vs Android only Motec being Apple without the intuitivity
Tried and true is good but life moves on and we live in 2016 not 1996.
09-26-2016, 07:41 AM
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Yes, it had CAN wideband and it worked quite well actually. Though tuning fuel table lacked the possibility of collecting all your wanted tables to one screen and adjust them. You needed to access each of them separately, greatly increasing tuning time.
I have tuned few Motecs, not the old DOS based but newer ones. Let's say that for the money you should expect better software. Their strentgh is their name and the straight-forward install that does not let you make mistakes. But also does not let you use your own head too much :P It's like Apple vs Android only Motec being Apple without the intuitivity Tried and true is good but life moves on and we live in 2016 not 1996.
I have tuned few Motecs, not the old DOS based but newer ones. Let's say that for the money you should expect better software. Their strentgh is their name and the straight-forward install that does not let you make mistakes. But also does not let you use your own head too much :P It's like Apple vs Android only Motec being Apple without the intuitivity
Tried and true is good but life moves on and we live in 2016 not 1996.
09-26-2016, 07:45 AM
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The advantage of using Motec is the accrued knowledge built up by 1000's of users. Many of them pro or semi pro teams. For sure they've created a very good product and have matched it with a cagey sales model. I'm sure Mr & Mrs Motec don't go hungry.
But I agree with Pauly where you say you go with what your chosen tuner is most comfortable with within reason.
But I agree with Pauly where you say you go with what your chosen tuner is most comfortable with within reason.
09-26-2016, 05:39 PM
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If local tuner is good at setting up motecs then life gets expensive
09-26-2016, 06:18 PM
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Again like everyone else has mentioned, go with the one your tuner is most familiar with.
09-27-2016, 03:12 PM
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Wanna sell the M4? I'd standalone my ducati but it has to be something classy even if it needs dos.
Edit:jeez, these are still $2k used on ebay.... Is that housing made of gold by any chance?
Edit:jeez, these are still $2k used on ebay.... Is that housing made of gold by any chance?
09-27-2016, 06:39 PM
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I'll see if I can find it. I wouldn't pay 2000 for an M4, you can get an M84 new for $2400. You will need to locate a DOS computer as the last one I had crashed and I chucked it.
09-27-2016, 06:46 PM
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I work as system admin so dos box is the least problem. Lemme know how much you want if you find it.
09-27-2016, 08:01 PM
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Nah we were never behind iron curtain. Half of germany was for instance, but not us. Europe is complicated 