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Old 07-20-2015, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lart951
Well fortunately I was able to find the issue, it was the software, I borrowed a dme from a lister from another 2.8L rogue tuned 951 and the idle and AFR are perfect.

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So, load the other lister's .bin file into your DME Tuner...

Did you try loading the base map .bin into your DME Tuner, or just swap in the other DME?
Old 07-20-2015, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
So, load the other lister's .bin file into your DME Tuner...

Did you try loading the base map .bin into your DME Tuner, or just swap in the other DME?
Most likely a PEBKAC issue in this case.
Old 07-20-2015, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
So, load the other lister's .bin file into your DME Tuner...

Did you try loading the base map .bin into your DME Tuner, or just swap in the other DME?
we downloaded the "base tune" files off your website and uploaded them to the DME that came in the car without any change in how it ran...it would idle in a 400 rpm range (900-1300ish) or so and if you revved it up the afr and tach needles would dance around even without moving your foot at all

also tried messing with some things on the tune, and under the hood, couldn't get anything to work. ISV disabling at the diag. plug and by unplugging it, o2 sensor, wiggling wires and hoses etc
Old 07-20-2015, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
So, load the other lister's .bin file into your DME Tuner...

Did you try loading the base map .bin into your DME Tuner, or just swap in the other DME?
Josh the other dme is just a regular 28pin dme with your chip, the only way I can have that bin file is if you provide the file to me since you put it on that chip
Old 07-20-2015, 11:01 PM
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I can pm you the customer name is a fellow lister i would need the last program that you burned in his chip, also what I noticed is the car goes like in overboost protection once I hit 10psi, do you think this could be a bad map sensor?
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
we downloaded the "base tune" files off your website and uploaded them to the DME that came in the car without any change in how it ran...it would idle in a 400 rpm range (900-1300ish) or so and if you revved it up the afr and tach needles would dance around even without moving your foot at all

also tried messing with some things on the tune, and under the hood, couldn't get anything to work. ISV disabling at the diag. plug and by unplugging it, o2 sensor, wiggling wires and hoses etc
Hmm, sounds like a software mismatch...

Originally Posted by lart951
Josh the other dme is just a regular 28pin dme with your chip, the only way I can have that bin file is if you provide the file to me since you put it on that chip
Originally Posted by lart951
I can pm you the customer name is a fellow lister i would need the last program that you burned in his chip, also what I noticed is the car goes like in overboost protection once I hit 10psi, do you think this could be a bad map sensor?
Ok, send me the info.
Also, send me your shipping address, I'll send you out a replacement chipboard.
Old 07-20-2015, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
Hmm, sounds like a software mismatch...





Ok, send me the info.
Also, send me your shipping address, I'll send you out a replacement chipboard.
I also did pull the chip board from the fellow lister into your rogue dme and the card wouldnt start, I have the latest rogue dme and the rogue tuner, i did sent you a email to your old email unless you changed it should be in your mail box
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Originally Posted by lart951
I also did pull the chip board from the fellow lister into your rogue dme and the card wouldnt start, I have the latest rogue dme and the rogue tuner, i did sent you a email to your old email unless you changed it should be in your mail box
Yeah, it wouldn't have started unless you flipped the little 24/28pin switch as well.

I'll get a new chipboard out to you...
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
Yeah, it wouldn't have started unless you flipped the little 24/28pin switch as well.

I'll get a new chipboard out to you...
question why do you think is it cutting off at 10psi?
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Originally Posted by lart951
question why do you think is it cutting off at 10psi?
Could be the MAP sensor, or the DME doesn't think it is getting a good MAP signal.
Old 07-21-2015, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
Could be the MAP sensor, or the DME doesn't think it is getting a good MAP signal.

Do I need to check voltage for the map sensor as per your website?
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Originally Posted by lart951
Do I need to check voltage for the map sensor as per your website?
That, or just look at it using the logger...
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
That, or just look at it using the logger...
Stupid question, the previous owner of the car had set according to him with the maf tuner software a limit of 10psi, but by installing a new dme with setting of 17 psi wouldn't that override the first setup, where and how you limit the psi? with the software?
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Originally Posted by lart951
Stupid question, the previous owner of the car had set according to him with the maf tuner software a limit of 10psi, but by installing a new dme with setting of 17 psi wouldn't that override the first setup, where and how you limit the psi? with the software?
Swapping the DMEs would have overridden any limit of the first DME...
There is most likely an issue that the software is trying to keep the motor from hurting itself.
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
Swapping the DMEs would have overridden any limit of the first DME...
There is most likely an issue that the software is trying to keep the motor from hurting itself.
Ok that freaking software is self aware are you sure this is not Skynet?
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