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Old 03-19-2014, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Van
Does yours have any of the other S features, besides the M52 engine code? Like the shock tower gussets, rolled rear fender lips, ABS, dual air bags, or split rear seat?
I'm not sure what the shock tower gussets are...it has the M030 club sport option, it don't think the rear fenders are rolled but I've not seen one to compare to. It does have ABS, not sure how to tell about the dual air bags, it does have the split rear seat.

The important codes on the sticker are 030, 220, and 593. I think the trannie is AOR.
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The shock tower gussets are visible in this picture - the passenger side one is below the power steering reservoir and next to the headlight motor. It's a triangular piece of metal that goes from the shock tower to the front part of the frame rail.

http://www.cannell.co.uk/images/Cann...T%2082%205.jpg

For the rolled rear fender, put your fingers up under there. Is there a lip like practically every other car on the planet? Or has the lip of metal been folded back against the inside of the fender making if very clean and smooth under there?

For the dual air bags, does the passenger side of the dash have the groove for the air bag to pop out? And does it have the air bag logo?
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May 6, 1988 build date for my '88 TS. Mike
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If the rear fender lips are folded over flat like a butter knife that is a good clue. The 758 option code should be there on the sticker too. AOR trans code, 52 engine code also on the sticker. Mine lacked codes for the individual option codes like for the 10-speaker system.
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My Turbo S warranty card has 51 engine code but 52 stamp on block. I have seen more than a few turbo S cars with engine code 51 but all had AOR as transmission code. The shop that services my car works on a ton off 944s and the owner calls the Turbo S a 88.5 Turbo. My warranty card/ trunk sticker is completely blank in the option section.
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...zed%201600x900.
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Originally Posted by Van
The shock tower gussets are visible in this picture - the passenger side one is below the power steering reservoir and next to the headlight motor. It's a triangular piece of metal that goes from the shock tower to the front part of the frame rail.

http://www.cannell.co.uk/images/Cann...T%2082%205.jpg

For the rolled rear fender, put your fingers up under there. Is there a lip like practically every other car on the planet? Or has the lip of metal been folded back against the inside of the fender making if very clean and smooth under there?

For the dual air bags, does the passenger side of the dash have the groove for the air bag to pop out? And does it have the air bag logo?
Van, still a little unclear on the gussets...here is a pic of mine, Yes on the dual air bags and rolled fenders



Originally Posted by dmcampbell
May 6, 1988 build date for my '88 TS. Mike
How do you get the precise date? mine just shows 5/88

Originally Posted by Jfrahm
If the rear fender lips are folded over flat like a butter knife that is a good clue. The 758 option code should be there on the sticker too. AOR trans code, 52 engine code also on the sticker. Mine lacked codes for the individual option codes like for the 10-speaker system.
good description on the fenders, that's what they are like. no 758 code though 51...AOR, the sticker has codes on it but the stereo just says 490 sound system and 494 additional amplifier.

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My Turbo S warranty card has 51 engine code but 52 stamp on block. I have seen more than a few turbo S cars with engine code 51 but all had AOR as transmission code. The shop that services my car works on a ton off 944s and the owner calls the Turbo S a 88.5 Turbo. My warranty card/ trunk sticker is completely blank in the option section.
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...zed%201600x900.
where should I look for the engine code?
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Originally Posted by dmcampbell
May 6, 1988 build date for my '88 TS. Mike
what's the last couple of #'s on your VIN?
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I tried to locate the engine code but I couldn't find it. I was looking by the starter...a lot of shielding around it maybe I should take that off...unless I'm looking in the wrong place.
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The gussets are those triangular shaped pieces under your power steering resivoir (and on the other side, but the view is obstructed). I would say yours is in all likelihood an S.
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Here are some more. Here are some comparisons between my race car (non-S '88) and my project (89 - de facto S).

Non-gusset:


Gusset:


Engine code can be see from passenger side, though harder with the heater still in place. Underneath #4 exhaust port a bit. Really easy to see on the race car (again, non-S code 51):


Harder to see on the 89 (code 52) because of where I have the engine sitting, but you can slightly make out the number:


The 2 ports on the intake, where one is dedicated to the KLR, are also a sign of an S. The non-S only had one, and used a single, longer banjo bolt with two banjos.
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Originally Posted by Xaerran
not sure if this helpful, but mine is an 88.5 and my title says 89.

-Xae
I don't think this is possible. Unless the car was re-VINned (by the factory, import company for purchase from other market, kit car, or otherwise) or has a shady history.

The only factory re-VINning I know of is on some of the 968's.

Model Year is part of the VIN. If the tenth digit is "K," it is a 1989. "J" would be 1988, whether it be 1988 or "1988.5."

Keep in mind the factory, DOT, etc. never distinguishes a ".5" year in terms of how the car is registered. I.e., as far as the DOT is concerned, a 1988.5 car doesn't exist. It's a 1988.

Your car can however have a 1988 build date and be a 1989 MY. To make things more confusing, it is possible your car could also have a 1988 build date, be registered as a 1989, and not first sold until 1990.

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast
I don't think this is possible. Unless the car was re-VINned (by the factory, import company for grey market purchase, or otherwise) or has a shady history.

The only factory re-VINning I know of is on some of the 968's.

Model Year is part of the VIN. If the tenth digit is "K," it is a 1989. "J" would be 1988, whether it be 1988 or "1988.5."

Keep in mind the factory, DOT, etc. never distinguishes a ".5" year in terms of how the car is registered. I.e., as far as the DOT is concerned, a 1988.5 car doesn't exist. It's a 1988.

Your car can however have a 1988 build date and be a 1989 MY. To make things more confusing, it is possible your car could also have a 1988 build date, be registered as a 1989, and not first sold until 1990.
This happened with a lot of the late 928's. some 93's didn't sell until 95'...but your right about the VIN it has the year in the code.



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