How many people leave thier 951 stock?
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How many people leave thier 951 stock?
The car I recently bought ('89) is stock as can be.
The more I look at them, the less bone stockers I see out there. I can see the allure of mods(go fast)for sure!
The more I look at them, the less bone stockers I see out there. I can see the allure of mods(go fast)for sure!
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I disagree, touch it all over the place! Just know that once you do, it will never, ever stop. Its a completely incurable addiction that will only stop when you die or run out of money.
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Its hard to resist modding turbocharged vehicles by their nature.
Most can easily be bumped up a few psi for a noticeable power increase
Then you get a nice bigger exhaust to free up the turbo some and get a nice tone
Next thing you know you're dropping thousands of dollars on turbos and custom pieces and with every mod you're making the car less and less reliable until you have something thats fast as hell but you're always turning down the radio thinking you heard something bad coming from the engine bay
Most can easily be bumped up a few psi for a noticeable power increase
Then you get a nice bigger exhaust to free up the turbo some and get a nice tone
Next thing you know you're dropping thousands of dollars on turbos and custom pieces and with every mod you're making the car less and less reliable until you have something thats fast as hell but you're always turning down the radio thinking you heard something bad coming from the engine bay
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Its hard to resist modding turbocharged vehicles by their nature.
Most can easily be bumped up a few psi for a noticeable power increase
Then you get a nice bigger exhaust to free up the turbo some and get a nice tone
Next thing you know you're dropping thousands of dollars on turbos and custom pieces and with every mod you're making the car less and less reliable until you have something thats fast as hell but you're always turning down the radio thinking you heard something bad coming from the engine bay
Most can easily be bumped up a few psi for a noticeable power increase
Then you get a nice bigger exhaust to free up the turbo some and get a nice tone
Next thing you know you're dropping thousands of dollars on turbos and custom pieces and with every mod you're making the car less and less reliable until you have something thats fast as hell but you're always turning down the radio thinking you heard something bad coming from the engine bay
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+1000 paulyy
It will be as reliable as it gets and of one thing you will be sure: If you leave it stock, say goodbye to depreciation - in time it will increase its value by far. For the very reason, that there are next to no stock 951s in mint condition and each year more and more get modified.
edit: the remaining ones get modified ..or totalled. As for the modifications - i don't believe you would stop. It's very addictive.. and "doing it reversibly" is rather an excuse which leads to unreversible changes, or at least not keeping the original parts (for example exhaust - kinda inconvenient to store at home). Save the breed - keep it stock.
It will be as reliable as it gets and of one thing you will be sure: If you leave it stock, say goodbye to depreciation - in time it will increase its value by far. For the very reason, that there are next to no stock 951s in mint condition and each year more and more get modified.
edit: the remaining ones get modified ..or totalled. As for the modifications - i don't believe you would stop. It's very addictive.. and "doing it reversibly" is rather an excuse which leads to unreversible changes, or at least not keeping the original parts (for example exhaust - kinda inconvenient to store at home). Save the breed - keep it stock.
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Mine is bone stock. If yours is a very good example, I would leave it stock as well. If it has had any issues that would prevent it from being perfect (prior collision damage, rust, prior mods gone wrong) then have at it.
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You guys constantly looking at gauges or keeping an ear wide open in fear of anything going wrong probably have not spent enough time datalogging your engines to gain the confidence that everything may actually be working as it should (!).
Granted that going down the road of heavy mods can be an expensive, long and tortuous journey that will justify investing in a few gauges, but reaching a satisfying balance between performance and reliability stays within the reach of everyone doing their homework.
Back to the original question, the only cars I would leave completely stock would be those in garage queen condition, ones that are so clean that I would feel bad not taking the wheels off to clean them after each drive.
Granted that going down the road of heavy mods can be an expensive, long and tortuous journey that will justify investing in a few gauges, but reaching a satisfying balance between performance and reliability stays within the reach of everyone doing their homework.
Back to the original question, the only cars I would leave completely stock would be those in garage queen condition, ones that are so clean that I would feel bad not taking the wheels off to clean them after each drive.
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You guys constantly looking at gauges or keeping an ear wide open in fear of anything going wrong probably have not spent enough time datalogging your engines to gain the confidence that everything may actually be working as it should (!).
Granted that going down the road of heavy mods can be a tortuous journey that will justify investing in gauges, but reaching a satisfying balance between performance and reliability stays within the reach of everyone doing their homework.
Back to the original question, the only cars I would leave completely stock would be those in garage queen condition, ones that are so clean that I would feel bad not taking the wheels off to clean them after each drive.
Granted that going down the road of heavy mods can be a tortuous journey that will justify investing in gauges, but reaching a satisfying balance between performance and reliability stays within the reach of everyone doing their homework.
Back to the original question, the only cars I would leave completely stock would be those in garage queen condition, ones that are so clean that I would feel bad not taking the wheels off to clean them after each drive.
you just don't throw parts onto it with accounting other bits.
#12
I agree with the leaving it stock idea but... My 89 has low miles <40K and I do drive it, so I went the update it for drivability route. Exhaust and an M-Tune and a new wastegate. Nothing I could not remove and return to stock.
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If you have self control, go on and do some basic mods. All of the mods on my car are easly reversible and I have all the stock parts except the cat back. I will say that my car is much faster and enjoyable with the light mods it has now.