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Old 12-20-2013, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott H View Post
Sell the NA and buy a Turbo.
OP, this is, by far, the best advice you'll ever get on this topic.

Mess with the NA and ruin its resale value. Your insurance company won't be amused or sympathetic when you ding the modded car, and in any event you won't get out of the modded NA what you put into it. It will always be a fake Turbo.

Detail your NA and sell it in the Spring, when people in the snowbelt get frisky about sports cars. Meanwhile, start looking for a good Turbo to buy, with particular attention to its damage and maintenance history. There are two schools of thought on this: 1.) Conventional wisdom is to buy the most expensive car you can, with lots of stuff already done and documented, such as belts, headgasket, clutch, LSD, etc. This carries the risk of buying a pig in a poke, however. 2.) Unconventnional wisdom is buy the cheapest 961 you can, provided it has no salvage history and is a color attractive to you. Then, using the money you saved on the cheap purchase, do correctly all the stuff it needs, knowing exactly when, where, and if such stuff was actually done--by you.
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Voith View Post
I love this ad

Is the TT actually different between n/a and Turbo?
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:23 PM
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I love that picture so much it is being framed and put up in my garage. However, after looking at it for over 20 years, it bugs me that they didn't include the KLR and associated parts. I suppose they had to stop somewhere.
I wish they'd included the twin arm suspension too...

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is the dog house for sale?
No way. That's where his wife forces him to sleep since having that in the back yard for 6 years!!
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:49 PM
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I have done this. Took a Nile Green NA and made it a turbo. Got a turbo car and built mine to the specs I wanted. I ended up with a 402rwhp car called "The Hulk" solid suspension 3" down pipe Mtune, LSD, Hybrid Turbo and so much more. Had a blast building it that is what made it so much fun. Also had many parts donated by Porsche and other places. Take your time, ask, look learn and be happy.
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Voith View Post
Does anyone know where I can find a high-resolution version of this pic ?
I love it....

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Old 12-21-2013, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 333pg333 View Post
No way. That's where his wife forces him to sleep since having that in the back yard for 6 years!!
If that was our back yard I would need a tombstone.

Originally Posted by tommye View Post
Does anyone know where I can find a high-resolution version of this pic ?
I love it....

Tommy
There is a site that has hi res versions but i forgot the name. I should have them somewhere..
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tommye View Post
Does anyone know where I can find a high-resolution version of this pic ?
I love it....

Tommy
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:40 PM
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As someone who has actually done this, just put a V8 in it.

You'll get much more reliable horsepower and much less pulling out your own hair.

Thanks for posting that high-res pic. I want to make that into a poster for the garage.
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Old 12-22-2013, 05:39 PM
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Or even better, put a 3 cylinder engine in it.
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Old 12-22-2013, 05:52 PM
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Broadfoot Racing just turbocharged a 944S. Contact him.
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:57 AM
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I know I'm the minority on this but, IMO, once you really start modifying these cars it doesn't matter what it started as. You generally upgrade engine, suspension and brakes anyway. Trans axles usually need replaced at least once. Other items are cosmetic and relatively easily changed.

If I had a really nice NA that I wanted to do a simple swap I'd:
Swap in turbo pistons and rods
M tune
Get other turbo parts ie; intake,bellhousing, clutch, headers, crossover, turbo, down pipe exhaust etc. (When really building one of these cars, most of these items are not stock, so why not get the upgrade parts immediately anyway.)


If I were to really do this:

Mtune
My 2.85 stroker
FRF clutch
FRF headers and crossover
Holset turbo
Turbo intake
Custom ic and pipes
Custom exhaust
Big valve NA head with coated exhaust ports
Turbo trans
951 front clip swap
951 valance
Brakes and suspension would be dictated by car use.
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Old 12-23-2013, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by blown 944 View Post
I know I'm the minority on this but, IMO, once you really start modifying these cars it doesn't matter what it started as.
This was my logic. I figured that most cheap 951s would be a little tired anyway so I bought a cheap 951 engine to rebuild and swap into my n/a.
A lot of stuff is commonly upgraded from oem so it isn't that big of a waste in the long run.
Outside of the basic engine stuff the only thing I sourced from another 951 is the transmission, everything else is better than stock 944 turbo.

Even the turbo bodywork isn't necessary, although its more attractive.
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:54 AM
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+951 to everything said above about swapping. Its surprising how quickly you can swap everything boost-y related into an N/A when you have all the parts laying next to each other. What a great way to learn the car too!

As echoed above, my logic was that my end product was going to be decidedly non-factory anyway, so in the end my car really has more parts in common with an early N/A than a factory 951. The only factory 951 bits on it (besides body panels, lights, ect) at this point are the TT and BH, motor, tranny, axles, radiator, and brakes. Everything else is a custom job, and there is absolutely no way I could have built my car for the budget I did if I had started with a factory 951.

Reimu, I didn't know you owned a swapped car. I almost want to make a registry thread to collect information on all the successful turbocharged or turboswapped N/A cars.

Never did understand the whole "sell it and buy a 951" thing here.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Dougs951S View Post
I almost want to make a registry thread to collect information on all the successful turbocharged or turboswapped N/A cars.
Great idea, do it. Something like 3.0 registry..

It would also serve as a nice info for those who open threads like this.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Voith View Post
Originally Posted by Dougs951S View Post
... I almost want to make a registry thread to collect information on all the successful turbocharged or turboswapped N/A cars.
Great idea, do it. Something like 3.0 registry..

It would also serve as a nice info for those who open threads like this.
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...-registry.html

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