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Old 12-04-2013 | 10:27 PM
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What's the clutch diameter? Do we know the cost yet?
Old 12-04-2013 | 11:46 PM
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Looks amazing, Good Job LR another new product for the 951
Old 12-05-2013 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
Nice setup Just FYI my current SPEC setup is still working great and I like it and have put 15000km on it without issue.
What is ironic is that Dave from Spec is not only a 944 Turbo guy......he has one with an LS conversion. Here it is from their display at SEMA last month:

Old 12-05-2013 | 12:33 AM
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And it's even in Mexico Blue....at least that is what it looks like....awesome I love that colour

Originally Posted by 67King
What is ironic is that Dave from Spec is not only a 944 Turbo guy......he has one with an LS conversion. Here it is from their display at SEMA last month:

Old 12-05-2013 | 12:38 AM
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what's that car have for brake assist?
Old 12-05-2013 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by blade7
Likewise the standard weight crank.
...pistons, rods...
Old 12-05-2013 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
what's that car have for brake assist?
Are you too young to remember The Flintstones?
Old 12-05-2013 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 67King
FIFY. Reminds me of overhearing teenage boys who are obviously virgins talk about sex.
Hahaha, So true..
Old 12-05-2013 | 07:46 AM
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robstah - do you have experience with the product in question or is your criticism pure speculation? If the latter, why not phrase it as a question as opposed to a declaration?
Old 12-05-2013 | 09:45 AM
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Nice. Hydraulic bearing would simplify things.

Too bad it will be priced in unobtanium range.
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I think you need to cut the crap.. seriously.

Someone has taken the effort in bringing a new product to our market. They don't need someone finding reasons why it's not plausible in our cars.

a) 800 ft/lb - 20% drivetrain loss = 640 RW ft/lb. I've seen some cars hitting 600 RW ft/lb torque (not necessarily on this forum) There's nothing wrong with head room.
My clutch can withstand over 500 ft/lb of torque. Is my car going to make that much power? no. I, like many others like some head room.

b) Some people i know would actually put that in a street car and a street 951... it's their preference, not yours. It's obviously an issue when people go with more clamping load on their PPs because the fork isn't strong enough and it will fail.
Looks like they've eliminated that issue with a hydraulic release bearing.

c) Yes.. The only time i see that needing to be replaced is when you'd replace the clutch. I don't see my slave cylinder getting replaced every 2 weeks.

d) You're not impressed by spec? cool.. I have Daves product in my car, more then happy with it and his customer service!

e) Not sure how the flywheel helps loading the engine to spool the turbo. My engine has a hard time loading the turbo in neutral & I've got a stock flywheel and an aluminium PP. When it's in gear, the engine load is coming from the tyres sticking to the floor and the mass of the car that's being moved.
Lighten your flywheel and your engine will rev quicker in neutral and help it rev down. can cause issues with idle as there's less rotating mass keeping the engine from stalling.

f) wait no f? damn.

At the end of the day, if someone wants this product.. they'll buy it. They may have a 400rwhp street car and want that clutch for what ever reason.

It's not like we're blowing crap down your throat for your LM4 swap. I would personally have chosen an LS2 if i was going through all that trouble for an engine swap.
You picked that engine because it was your choice.

If a 1200 hp nelson racing TT LSx engine was available for a swap in a 951 and someone wanted to do that swap. Over kill? probably.. But the last thing they want is negativity.

And if i ever get around starting my project i've been toying with.. paddle shift. This would be the ideal clutch to use as the factory clutch fork would get abused to hard that it'll break.
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Originally Posted by Voith
Nice. Hydraulic bearing would simplify things.

Too bad it will be priced in unobtanium range.
The bearing was the first think i noticed! i'm loving that idea.
Old 12-05-2013 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
How many teeth on the Flywheel?
The stock ring gear bolts to this flywheel.
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Old 12-05-2013 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dutch944
Nice! Too bad it doesn't come with the 60-2 teeth on the flywheel, else it would be my (and Dukes) way to go
I would imagine one come be incorporated into this kit. We will check with SPEC
and get some info to share back.
Old 12-05-2013 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Thom
Genuinely new product for the 951 market, thanks for that.

Should such a set up have any effect at all on the vibrations felt in the clutch pedal after having gone full load in top gear for a while? I have noticed this effect on all the 944T I have driven, each with its particular state of tune.

Is this going to add further stress to the stock fork?
Doesn't use a clutch fork or slave cylinder. Since the clutch fork is a weak link on these cars, and no longer available, problem solved!



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