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Old 09-05-2013, 10:51 PM
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Opinions on the new High Z technology ? Reason I ask , one of my 95lb Delphi injectors is locking up, so i am in the market




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I´m also wondering.
I´ve heard lots of positive about the new bosch motorsport 1000-1700cc injectors.
(who people sell under their own brand i think?)
For example FIC and injector dynamics
The 944 uses peak and hold injectors as i understand and this is saturated.
But rogue tuning offers 80lbs high Z saturated injectors to his maf.
is it possible to run saturated on original dme?
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Originally Posted by DLS
The 944 uses peak and hold injectors as i understand and this is saturated.
But rogue tuning offers 80lbs high Z saturated injectors to his maf.
is it possible to run saturated on original dme?
The 944/951 DME injection driver is... interesting.
Yes, high-Z injectors can be run with the DME - with correct software changes.

Generally you can use high-Z injectors with peak & hold drivers, but not the other-way-around.
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
The 944/951 DME injection driver is... interesting.
Interesting indeed....
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The waveform above looks right but the DC levels are not. Using your piggy back and fuel pressure, you should be able to dial them in.

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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
Yes, high-Z injectors can be run with the DME - with correct software changes.
Ok so you need to make some software changes to run the bosch high z injectors ?

I can´t just toss out my resistors and lucas 1200cc and put in the bosch injectors
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Originally Posted by Adker
Using your piggy back and fuel pressure, you should be able to dial them in.
Installed the FIC injectors today and I was able to do just that

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I can´t just toss out my resistors and lucas 1200cc and put in the bosch injectors
Since your already running 1200cc injectors I think you have already made most of the software changes needed ?? I pulled resistors and dialed in fuel ratio by piggyback, doing an autocross tomorrow, we will see how it goes.
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Originally Posted by David Floyd

Since your already running 1200cc injectors I think you have already made most of the software changes needed ?? I pulled resistors and dialed in fuel ratio by piggyback, doing an autocross tomorrow, we will see how it goes.
I don´t think i can just swap them
even if they are at the same 1200cc flow

I think i also need to have some changes to the software because the old injectors are peak and hold and the new is saturated?
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As a generality, saturated injectors are slower to respond than peak&hold.
This is why I mentioned a software change earlier. You will need to update the injector latency settings for the slower injectors, and need to be running in a 1 inj/720° batch-fire mode).
You can possibly tune around it with a piggyback - as long as the latter is true.



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