Tech: The 944 / 951 Ignition System.
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I was using it with the control box then with msd. I'm not positive it is the exact coil you have. I have been using it for 7 years now.
The reality is though that I'm looking forward to Josh's developments this year. I prefer to use his stuff whenever possible.
The reality is though that I'm looking forward to Josh's developments this year. I prefer to use his stuff whenever possible.
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You might have missed my point, I too will ultize all of Josh's developments, however to optomize his control circuit/coding the optimal coil must be determined. I am just curious how this coil rates compared to the MSD unit. I do know that Accell has bought the rights from Jacobs and now use the Ultra coils design but repackage/rebrand it. They now call it the Accell Ultra Coil, Ha!
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Well, if one believes the published specifications of the Jacobs/Accel Ultra coil; it should be a fast-charging, but low inductance coil. At peak DME amperage:
1/2 * 0.003 * 9^2 = 122mJ
It will charge very fast due to the fact it has fairly low inductance & resistance; but, because it has low inductance, the peak energy potential is not very impressive.
This is a coil that is really meant to be used in a CDI type system. And in that application, I'm sure it performs just fine.
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Well, if one believes the published specifications of the Jacobs/Accel Ultra coil; it should be a fast-charging, but low inductance coil. At peak DME amperage:
1/2 * 0.003 * 9^2 = 122mJ
It will charge very fast due to the fact it has fairly low inductance & resistance; but, because it has low inductance, the peak energy potential is not very impressive.
This is a coil that is really meant to be used in a CDI type system. And in that application, I'm sure it performs just fine.
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The red version is purely a CDI-type coil. According to the specs is has extremely low resistance and inductance. Similar to the Accel/Jacobs coil, the red version is designed to purely act as a step-up transformer, it has very little inductance, or storage potential.
In-fact, I would be surprised if that could would work at all without a CDI box. It's energy storage potential is only ~5% that of the blue version.
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What about the whole Mult Spark thing that MSD does? Says the do it at low rpm
Up to 3500, Does it truly have any gain in performance? The biggest difference I noticed in my MSD digital 6 plus setup, Was Better Throttle response and less bogging in taller gears, Am I crazy our is this normal with a ignition upgrade?
Up to 3500, Does it truly have any gain in performance? The biggest difference I noticed in my MSD digital 6 plus setup, Was Better Throttle response and less bogging in taller gears, Am I crazy our is this normal with a ignition upgrade?
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What about the whole Mult Spark thing that MSD does? Says the do it at low rpm
Up to 3500, Does it truly have any gain in performance? The biggest difference I noticed in my MSD digital 6 plus setup, Was Better Throttle response and less bogging in taller gears, Am I crazy our is this normal with a ignition upgrade?
Up to 3500, Does it truly have any gain in performance? The biggest difference I noticed in my MSD digital 6 plus setup, Was Better Throttle response and less bogging in taller gears, Am I crazy our is this normal with a ignition upgrade?
For example, Electromotive has stated that their ignition system (wasted-spark, inductive style ignition) will provide up to 2mS of spark duration. This is over 30° of crank rotation at 3000rpm. By contrast, capacitive ignitions might only provide 0.2mS of spark duration; this is only ~3° of crank rotation at the same 3000rpm. So by doing three strikes, they are attempting to add spark "duration".
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What are your recommended spark plugs and gaps with this coil setup. Need to order those as well while I am at it. Thanks for the red versus blue explanation as well!
What are your recommended spark plugs and gaps with this coil setup. Need to order those as well while I am at it. Thanks for the red versus blue explanation as well!
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One more note, with a sufficiently fast coil-charge time (or less cylinders per coil), mutli-strike can be done with inductive ignition a well. In-fact, this capability was built into the Ford EDIS wasted-spark module used on early 90's Fords.
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A large gap is not as important with an inductive ignition (compared to a CDI). This is because we want to use the ignition energy for spark duration, not just a large gap. With the HVC-II coil, I would start with stock gap, and then adjust if necessary (or desired).