Refresh951's Hybrid Ultra Stroker Build
#46
Shawn I got a question for you, now atleast for the 2.85l engine is it nessessary to grind the crank or could you just use the new rods, larger pistons, sleeves and such? I'm not an engine builder but I'm sure the grinding is what makes the stroker portion. I ask because I'm planning on doing what you and sid have done but want to just lighten and knife the crank instead if possible.
#47
Been doing quite a bit of reading about rod/stroke ratios. Rod/Stroke ratio on the my 2.85L was 1.74 which is considered near ideal (1.75). I think the 2.85L will prove to be an incredible design for both power and reliability.
The 3.15L will have a ratio of 1.58 which is generally considered acceptable but will definitely result in greater stress on the rings and cylinder walls. Things that must be considered in a build. My 3.15L will have a stroke of 95 mm which is the max possible with an offset grind 3L crank (with the Mitsubishi rods). Should be a good case study in the extreme. Here are some interesting articles on the subject:
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...o/viewall.html
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...building_tips/
http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/rod-tech-c.htm
The 3.15L will have a ratio of 1.58 which is generally considered acceptable but will definitely result in greater stress on the rings and cylinder walls. Things that must be considered in a build. My 3.15L will have a stroke of 95 mm which is the max possible with an offset grind 3L crank (with the Mitsubishi rods). Should be a good case study in the extreme. Here are some interesting articles on the subject:
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...o/viewall.html
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...building_tips/
http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/rod-tech-c.htm
Last edited by refresh951; 12-09-2012 at 11:53 PM.
#50
Been doing quite a bit of reading about rod/stroke ratios. Rod/Stroke ratio on the my 2.85L was 1.74 which is considered near ideal (1.75). I think the 2.85L will prove to be an incredible design for both power and reliability.
The 3.15L will have a ratio of 1.58 which is generally considered acceptable but will definitely result in greater stress on the rings and cylinder walls. Things that must be considered in a build. My 3.15L will have a stroke of 95 mm which is the max possible with an offset grind 3L crank (with the Mitsubishi rods). Should be a good case study in the extreme. Here are some interesting articles on the subject:
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...o/viewall.html
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...building_tips/
http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/rod-tech-c.htm
The 3.15L will have a ratio of 1.58 which is generally considered acceptable but will definitely result in greater stress on the rings and cylinder walls. Things that must be considered in a build. My 3.15L will have a stroke of 95 mm which is the max possible with an offset grind 3L crank (with the Mitsubishi rods). Should be a good case study in the extreme. Here are some interesting articles on the subject:
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...o/viewall.html
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...building_tips/
http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/rod-tech-c.htm
Check out ENDYN also. Some reading material there. I mention them before somewhere on here.
Jason
#51
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/je...make/chevrolet
#52
Are the pistons for 102.108mm/4.020" bore? Like these?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/je...make/chevrolet
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/je...make/chevrolet
http://www.eaglerod.com
#53
Drifting
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,239
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From: Bangkok, Thailand, Milpitas, CA & Weeki Wachee, FL
Looks like my Nissan alt, one of the better mods I did. If you want it to look really nice order the factory harness connectors. They work great. I used this on both of my cars.
#54
My pistons are 4.030". My pistons are similar. I initially used a basic engine calculator to choose components such as found here:
http://www.eaglerod.com
http://www.eaglerod.com
#55
Pretty cool calculator. I have a crank with a spun #2 that I could get ground to 85.5mm stroke (it is a bit ground down from the bearing), and with a 4.030 bore (I have found a sleeve in 4.031", is that 0.001" to account for piston ring gap?) should be ~2.81L and a 1.753:1 rod ratio...
https://rennlist.com/forums/9439454-post6.html
#56
Same bore.
Thanks, some nice info!
My pistons are 4.030". My pistons are similar. I initially used a basic engine calculator to choose components such as found here:
http://www.eaglerod.com
Thanks, some nice info!
My pistons are 4.030". My pistons are similar. I initially used a basic engine calculator to choose components such as found here:
http://www.eaglerod.com
#57
Yep, Nissan alt. Thanks for the tip on the connectors.
Both Sid and I used .0055-.0060 clearance. See below:
https://rennlist.com/forums/9439454-post6.html
Both Sid and I used .0055-.0060 clearance. See below:
https://rennlist.com/forums/9439454-post6.html
#58
Drifting
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,239
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From: Bangkok, Thailand, Milpitas, CA & Weeki Wachee, FL
I have Iceshark harnesses on both cars, but did not include the Nissan connectors. The connectors were cheap, part number and price is listed in the "How To" write up. Robbie still makes the entire Iceshark harness, including the optional lighting harness for true European fog/driving light setups. I have yet to install all of the lights but I am sure they will be blinding just by the wattages. Thus the alternator mod. The added space was a giant plus!
#60
Drifting
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,239
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From: Bangkok, Thailand, Milpitas, CA & Weeki Wachee, FL
Patrick: That is a very long and disappointing story. Car has been in Oklahoma for nearly three years now! Finally back to LR this morning, maybe will have something soon. Don't really want to say much about this nightmare. I will post results once completed.