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refresh951 11-06-2012 12:07 AM

Refresh951's Hybrid Ultra Stroker Build
 
I have been driving my 2.85L Hybrid Stoker now for a couple months (about 1200 miles). This motor is based on Blown944's design and I have been very happy with the results. Once again I must thank Sid for his help throughout the process. :cheers: I believe there are a number of builds in the works based on his design. Dave Lindsey even told me they are working on an offset grind motor. I learned a great deal during my build and I have been thinking about what the motor could do with a few modifications. :D

Saturday night I took the 951 out for a VERY spirited final run before putting it away for the winter . Really no reason to change anything, the car is very quick with 410 whp and a very solid power band but I keep thinking about what it could do, so here we go...

I have purchased all parts to build a 3.15L (except the turbo) and started pulling my motor tonight. I will essential re-use much of my 2.85L including the block, change the pistons, change the crank, and change the turbo. This will also allow me to tear down the 2.85L and inspect for any design issues. I plan to have everything done by March 1st.

I have some new goals for the build:

- 550 rwhp/500+ ftlbs torque at 6300rpm, E85, 20-22psi
- 1 bar at 3200rpm bottom end performance
- Total cost for changes under $3260 for everything including new turbo

- Using 86 Block, dry sleeved, bored to just over 102mm, half filled (re-used)
- JE Small Block Chevy Pistons, Forged 4032
- Eagle 150mm Mitsubishi Rods (re-used)
- 3L crank, offset grind, 95mm stroke, cross drilled
- Compression Ratio is 8.3:1
- ARP Head Studs (re-used)
- Cometic Head Gasket (re-used)
- ACL Race Rod Bearings (Coated)
- OEM Main Bearings (re-used)
- Crank Scrapper (re-used)
- Modified Stock Intake, Ported, Honed (re-used)
- BMW Throttle Body
- Stock Cam, Stock Headers, Stock Intercooler
- High Flow Ported 8 Valve Head, 47mm intake valves (re-used)
- GT3582R Turbo (1.06 A/R, T3), this still may change
- Non-Interference Design
- Self Fabricated 3" Exhaust, 3" Down Pipe, V-Band
- MoCal Oil Cooler (re-used)
- s2 Harmonic Balancer
- Rogue Modified M Tune

Paulyy 11-06-2012 12:21 AM

Subscribed!

1.06 will be to big for the spool characteristics IMO. make a custom twin scroll X-over if you want to get the most out if the turbo with a twin scroll housing.

refresh951 11-06-2012 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by Paulyy (Post 9975231)
Subscribed!

1.06 will be to big for the spool characteristics IMO. make a custom twin scroll X-over if you want to get the most out if the turbo with a twin scroll housing.

I know it will be difficult, still working on that part of the build. Looks like you can get 1.06 A/R in a T3 turbine housing. Still researching options.

refresh951 11-06-2012 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by robstah (Post 9975295)
The mod bug REALLY bit you hard, didn't it? :p

Having too much fun to stop I guess. Just an excuse to hang out in the garage. :)

blown 944 11-06-2012 01:43 AM

Going full out on the stroke eh? Measure twice on the cradle etc. iirc it's possible.

I'd just get a new cometic. Why risk that?

Gonna make some f'n torque!!!

Can't wait.

thingo 11-06-2012 03:32 AM

Not too hard to find a better turbo than the GT3582

Thom 11-06-2012 05:13 AM

I doubt the stock cam will give a GT35 enough room to breathe as much as it could past 5500 rpm.

Looking forward to following this build.

refresh951 11-06-2012 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by blown 944 (Post 9975370)
Going full out on the stroke eh? Measure twice on the cradle etc. iirc it's possible.

I'd just get a new cometic. Why risk that?

Gonna make some f'n torque!!!

Can't wait.

Kind of needed the stroke the way things worked out. :D I really plan on taking my time on this. Good point about the MLS, for $100 I am sure it is wise to go ahead and replace it.

refresh951 11-06-2012 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Thom (Post 9975532)
I doubt the stock cam will give a GT35 enough room to breathe as much as it could past 5500 rpm.

Looking forward to following this build.

Cam and intercooler are pretty easy to change out if I do not meet my goals.

ChrisJ951 11-06-2012 10:59 AM

Buy your wife a very nice Christmas present.

Paulyy 11-06-2012 11:17 AM

You'll want to put a cam in it, you'll probably wouldn't even notice any bottom end loss..

Adonay 11-06-2012 12:18 PM

Do you want to sell the old crank?

refresh951 11-06-2012 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Adonay (Post 9976285)
Do you want to sell the old crank?

I believe I sold the crank, if that changes I will let you know. I will also be selling my TO4E. That again may also be sold.

refresh951 11-12-2012 08:45 PM

S2 crank arrived today. Everything looked great. I cannot believe I got this crank with an S2 harmonic balancer delivered for $492. :D Tomorrow it is going to the machine shop for offset grind.



Reimu 11-12-2012 08:58 PM

Thinking about doing one of these instead of switching to a smaller turbo..


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