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Old 09-13-2012 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jlturpin
Any idea how the factory intercooler performed after being converted to air/water?

I would like to find one to fit in factory location and use the Ford cobra expansion tank, pump and intercooler radiator. IMHO it should be much easier to mount the radiator than a FMIC since it is less than two inches thick.
there's so much space down there you may as well just fit the largest radiator you can for the IC fluid..
Old 09-13-2012 | 08:28 PM
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I would assume the cooler could be fabricated to fit in the stock location.

Ill make a run up to frozen boost in springs next week and let them take a look around in my bay and see what they think... would be awesome to use stock or chrome o.e. piping.. keeps things.... sleeper status
Old 09-14-2012 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladed-vaults
I assume yall suggest e-85 due to the high octane and elimination of detonation?

I'm not really looking at these for that reason. Im looking for the coldest air charge i can get. We all know coolder air means more bang
With e85 you already have the means to have the coldest possible charge you're ever going to get.
The issue is you have to be able to get most of the e85 fuel to evaporate before the intake valve closes.
Maybe a fifth and/or sixth injector upstream of the intake manifold; using them as your fuel enrichment on boost; separate pump drawing fuel from the common gas tank activated by a boost pressure switch.
Can be done; you will definitely feel the difference in power.
In fact, using the evaporative properties of e85, we don't even really need an intercooler.
Old 09-14-2012 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboTommy
With e85 you already have the means to have the coldest possible charge you're ever going to get.
The issue is you have to be able to get most of the e85 fuel to evaporate before the intake valve closes.
Maybe a fifth and/or sixth injector upstream of the intake manifold; using them as your fuel enrichment on boost; separate pump drawing fuel from the common gas tank activated by a boost pressure switch.
Can be done; you will definitely feel the difference in power.
In fact, using the evaporative properties of e85, we don't even really need an intercooler.
Thankyou!
Old 09-15-2012 | 12:28 PM
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Ironically Matt Snow, Snow Performance, was just on Spike this am for a quick bit boost cooler system. He mentioned water injection was originally part of the patent for the diesel engine.
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
there's so much space down there you may as well just fit the largest radiator you can for the IC fluid..
We still need to do the IC/intake ac lines "coil wrap" for super cold IC pipes and intake.
Old 09-15-2012 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboTommy
With e85 you already have the means to have the coldest possible charge you're ever going to get.
How do you figure?

The enthalpy of vaporization is:

Water: 2257 kJ/kg
Ethanol: 841 kJ/kg

If I put a kg of water in (1 liter) it will lower the energy content of the system by 2257 kJ as it evaporates.

If I put in 1 liter or Ethanol (.789 kg) it will lower the energy content of the system by 663 kJ.

Essentially, evaporating 1L of water takes 3.4 times more energy than 1L of Ethanol.
Old 09-15-2012 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DanaT
How do you figure?

The enthalpy of vaporization is:

Water: 2257 kJ/kg
Ethanol: 841 kJ/kg

If I put a kg of water in (1 liter) it will lower the energy content of the system by 2257 kJ as it evaporates.

If I put in 1 liter or Ethanol (.789 kg) it will lower the energy content of the system by 663 kJ.

Essentially, evaporating 1L of water takes 3.4 times more energy than 1L of Ethanol.
That's all fine and dandy, but you can't use water as a fuel source.



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