333pg333

As many of you would have seen Sean's (JET951) and my videos of our times on Eastern Creek I thought it might be interesting to show what the fastest Time Attack car did today. Interestingly it's top speed is similar if not slower than Sean's yet he is 17 seconds faster than Sean's best on slicks and a full 20 seconds ahead of my best on R spec rubber. This is the Project Nemo Evo and he is on the soft compound Yokohama Ao50 R spec rubber. Tomorrow he intends to go through T1 flat out! That is the corner that I had my 'episode'. Not for the feint hearted!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzAE...s&feature=plcp

thingo

Yes a very impressive time indeed, but the track is a touch faster this year isn't it?(not 3 sec though)It's on Hankook's btw.
At that speed I am surprised he wasn't flat through T1. Remember the time Hulkenberg overtook on outside around T1 in the A1GP?

dillon410021

very cool, love the side door!

333pg333

For some reason the IN Car video is not embedding. Please click the first link for this. Then you will get a full view of the lap.

Sorry Rod, you're right they are on Hankooks. I think the mindset of flat to the floor in a sedan is probably the main hurdle.

Duke

17-20 seconds faster is just mind boggling, talk about another universe!
But there should be no reason for a well setup race only 951 to come close to the Scorch Racing Nissan S15 that did a 1:28.xx today. Sure a few sec's slower if not having 700 hp as the S15 or a seq gearbox but just by looking at the Nissan's spec's a 951 must be possible to get within 5-7 sec's without re-inventing the wheel.
I want to see you in top 3 in the open class next year Pat

Duke

The Scorch Racing's lap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FXK9hzDf8Q

lart951

the question is how much money is in between Sean's 951 and this evo?

Oddjob

I was on track a couple years ago w/ a pro-built time attack Mitsu Evo. Thing did have stupid power and was a lot faster in the corners than I was expecting. They had running problems w/ the car thru-out the event, so I never saw it lay down a fast (qual) lap. Not sure what it was capable of, but should have been very fast w/ good tires and a good driver.

For additional perspective:

At my home 3 mile track - a 944GTR is 15 seconds a lap faster than my car (EFR from a 1987 Trans Am race), a Peter Gregg 935/78 is about 18 seconds faster (from a 1978 Trans Am race), and a 917/10 is 25 seconds a lap (Donahue in a '72 Cam Am qualifying). 2011 997 Cup driven by last year's IMSA GT3 Challenge 2nd place points finisher (currently also in 2nd place so far this year) is 10-11 seconds faster.

A little surprised at the safety equipment shown in the Scorch video above. No rollbar padding & angle of the shoulder belts.

A.Wayne

Sweet video, enjoyed that , the time difference is made up of multiple things, not the very least driver...

A.Wayne

With modern tires those gaps would be much larger ...

Oddjob

By a big margin.

I recall that qual laps from the RS Spyders at Road America (4 miles) when they last ran there with ALMS are about 45-50 seconds a lap faster than the top 951 Club race cars.

95ONE

Patrick, unfortunately horsepower really kicks *** in many tracks. Think about this. My car goes (WENT..ugh) Around 20mph to 100mph in around 6 seconds. It takes most cars at least twice that. There are 7 decent sized straights that allow that at Texas world speedway. One of them is the really long straight. A stock 951 vs mine was about 8 seconds longer to run that one straight. 8 seconds faster..... just one straight. I didn't have to turn or brake. lets just say we were the same driving level and turning and braking as fast as each other.

Front straight... 8 seconds. next 6 straights. estimate me beating the other 951 on each straight start to finish by at least 3 seconds each... 18 seconds = Total faster time = 26 seconds!!!!!!!! That is just with Horsepower to weight.

What does confuse me is your statement that SEANS's speed and the Nemo Car were the same? How was that calculated? If that's the case, then the driving was pretty insane and so was the tires and suspension and Aero.
I see he hits 237kph. Same as 147mph. Is that the speed SEAN would hit on the straight before turn 1?

333pg333

Bruce, it was Sean, not Paulyy I was talking about. Sean was only going off his stock speedo too so of course we know these get pretty optimistic. I think he said he saw over 260kph on his speedo. So that brings it down to the 235-245kph area allowing for differences. I think I touch about 240kph before my crash. The Sierra Sierra Evo was running close to 50psi last year and saw about 300kph but 'only' managed a 1:29 late in the day. All anyone was talking about after last year was downforce. So clearly you can give up some terminal speed and make it up into and through then out of corners. Also see how deep he brakes and from what speeds. Pulling massive G's all over the track. Like to see them on a bigger track like Bathurst. Not sure if they'd be superior there. Too much drag for a long fast track I'd think.

333pg333

Agreed. Amazing to think these tyres are road worthy/legal in theory anyway...

333pg333

Oh, no doubt about that Lart. Not comparing them in anyway except to give an understanding of just how fast these Time Attack cars are. Some of these cars have well over 1/2 million invested. Crazy really, but that's what people are prepared to spend. The shame is that it's squeezing the little guy out. They have 3 classes in this event. Pro which is the top, Open and Clubsprint. Clubsprint have to run on normal, non R spec rubber. Like your Extreme Performance Summer tyres I guess. Open is where the guys like me or Sean or similar would run, but there are cars in there that are doing between 1:32 and 1:35...they are pretty similar spec to the Pro class cars. So the guys like me are never going to threaten. Damn there's guys in Clubsprint which are meant to be road registered cars, putting in Sequential gearboxes! The rules are getting a little grey. Deep pockets usually win as normal...