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Old 07-13-2012, 06:25 PM
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gregeast
Did a quick search on the 996 board and found this:

"I just want to confirm that regardless of brand and model of tire, the cold pressure should be at the PSI listed on the inside of the fuel door.

In my case, 18" 36 PSI front, 44 PSI rear."

Our cars obviously don't have the rear weight bias of a 911 so I'm thinking 36 PSI all the way around. That's a bit higher than I've been running, I'm usually at 34 or so.
Good info. Thanks! Now I have an idea why Pat runs that.
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I have the same size tires and I believe the same wheels as you Ehall. I use a pyrometer to get my desired temp spread. 32-34 psi range gave me good values. I had to take air out at the track when the tires warmed up lots. I don't see a problem with using a pyrometer to set them on the street either. Go for a spirited drive, collect temp and pressure data. Adjust as necessary.
Old 07-13-2012, 07:21 PM
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Yep, same wheels. I've painted mine, so I'll throw up some picks when everything is in place. A spirited drive should put about an additional 3psi in the tires. Anyway, I'm starting to get a good starting point.
Old 07-13-2012, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JustinL
I have the same size tires and I believe the same wheels as you Ehall. I use a pyrometer to get my desired temp spread. 32-34 psi range gave me good values. I had to take air out at the track when the tires warmed up lots. I don't see a problem with using a pyrometer to set them on the street either. Go for a spirited drive, collect temp and pressure data. Adjust as necessary.

Why does being full of hot air and an Ehall thread always fit together??

Don't shoot the messenger, I'm sure everyone was thinkin' the same thing.



E, I thought you only crossed into dumbass territory when you were on a bender.
Old 07-13-2012, 09:19 PM
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Well, banks, everyone else was discussing the topic, except you so, Pot meet Kettle. Don't shoot the messenger.
Old 07-13-2012, 09:28 PM
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I run 245s/305s on 18s and started with 36 psi all around but find that 41 psi in the rear give me a better feel as well as better wear. Tires wear differently from one maker to another so experiment and see what's best for your use. I'd start with 36 psi and go up/down from there. Most performance tires that I have used or seen, the max recommended pressure printed on the sidewall is usually 44 psi. So for me, once warmed up, the pressure would be around what's recommended for the tire but still under the max value for street driven.

I also experimented with 36/24/36 and found that this combo generally works pretty well under most conditions.
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On the street I don't think its that critical, 35 PSI all around should be good.
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Originally Posted by mudbuddha
I run 245s/305s on 18s and started with 36 psi all around but find that 41 psi in the rear give me a better feel as well as better wear. Tires wear differently from one maker to another so experiment and see what's best for your use. I'd start with 36 psi and go up/down from there. Most performance tires that I have used or seen, the max recommended pressure printed on the sidewall is usually 44 psi. So for me, once warmed up, the pressure would be around what's recommended for the tire but still under the max value for street driven.

I also experimented with 36/24/36 and found that this combo generally works pretty well under most conditions.
Thanks, and yeah, 36/24/36 does seem to be a universally accepted standard. Hell, you can always by a bag for the face!
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You should follow the vehicle manufacturer's recommendation. That is what the tire manufacturer's say, but it is also how the suspension was designed. And the contact patch will change SHAPES with a different tire size, but the area will remain the same. And again, that's what the suspension was designed around.
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Originally Posted by ehall
Well, banks, everyone else was discussing the topic, except you so, Pot meet Kettle. Don't shoot the messenger.

Ok so here is my contribution to the topic. Do not let them get low on air. I had my car aligned by Don Jackson Enterprises in Phoenix. A few months later I got this view of my tires.
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I went back thinking Don's guys had messed up my alignment. I had it aligned when it was hot(summer) and did not check my tire pressure when it cooled off(fall). I drove around about a month and a half in the cooler temps and this is the result. Don says this is actually pretty common.

Keep a close eye on your pressures especially when the temp changes.
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Guys. What offsets are you running for late model 951's. I'm trying to run 255 front and 285 (min) rear also.
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Originally Posted by 67King
You should follow the vehicle manufacturer's recommendation. That is what the tire manufacturer's say, but it is also how the suspension was designed. And the contact patch will change SHAPES with a different tire size, but the area will remain the same. And again, that's what the suspension was designed around.
Thanks! Good info!
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Originally Posted by mr965
Guys. What offsets are you running for late model 951's. I'm trying to run 255 front and 285 (min) rear also.
I'm running ET52 all around. I think Justin is running 52 fr/58/rear, but double check with him.


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