Total Sales $$ from parting 86 951?
06-19-2012, 05:48 PM
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how much do you expect gross on that 951, I'll tell you if you are realistic
06-19-2012, 11:44 PM
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I'm parting out my '87 951, I'm done trying to fix everything. Not looking to get rich, just looking to get rid of it. I have a trashed '86 motor, '87 used leaky long block, misc parts right now.
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06-20-2012, 09:28 AM
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a lot of good points made in this thread. Lart obviously has this process down.... but 944Ts are discarded for less $$$$ in places like Massachusetts, Connecticut and California because the masses moved on from these cars a long, long, long time ago..... it's so bad here, you'll be more likely to see an old Jaguar e-type than a 944 on the first warm, spring day... a 944T that sells for $8 k in many parts of the country wouldn't even get a phone call here in Massachusetts.... that being said, i saw my first 944 in more than 15 years on Speen Street in Natick, Mass yesterday (Silverish color. anyone out driving this car yesterday) ?
parting a perfectly running car has got to be one of the weirdest phenomenon in the modern used car world. weirder still - that we're talking about doing that to a P 0 R S C H E. yet with the 944T, this seems to happen fairly often to (apparently) decent running cars, or at least not in need some horrific amount of work to put them back on the road.... even 968s (when one comes up) sell for nothing dollars (now) here in Mass. the public has simply moved on to Boxsters and Caymans (and even that represents a different type of car-buyer altogether)..... nobody wrenches their own Porsches in this part of the country... we had a running 968 in need of just some TLC sell for just a couple of thousand dollars on ebay only a few weeks ago.
this scenario raises alarms when considering the possibility of purchasing any 924, 944 or 968. the danger lies in new buyers, new to the brand, virtually clueless about what they're getting into -- but, can get into the Porsche game for cheap money.... but, it's even getting weird with the Boxsters and 996's.... there's a ton of upside down P-car projects waiting out there... one more reason why i think if you're going to put a ton of money into any '80s or '90s Porsche, i suggest you do it to a 911 (where 1 dollar back for every 2 dollars in is not unrealistic).....
if you do choose a 944, 944T or 968, plan on keeping the car for a very long, long, long, long time and in so doing, think very seriously about changing the engine over to reliable, V8 power at some point. knowing i'll be keeping my car for 25 years or more (barring any unforseen event) takes a good amount of the anxiety out about keeping and maintaining relatively expensive parts on the car. your 944Ts might not have a ton of super expensive parts on board, but the cars are extremely expensive in terms of wrenching time per X number of driving miles. no doubt that this situation causes a lot of the 944Ts significant downtime (stress). especially when running high hp cars.
parting a perfectly running car has got to be one of the weirdest phenomenon in the modern used car world. weirder still - that we're talking about doing that to a P 0 R S C H E. yet with the 944T, this seems to happen fairly often to (apparently) decent running cars, or at least not in need some horrific amount of work to put them back on the road.... even 968s (when one comes up) sell for nothing dollars (now) here in Mass. the public has simply moved on to Boxsters and Caymans (and even that represents a different type of car-buyer altogether)..... nobody wrenches their own Porsches in this part of the country... we had a running 968 in need of just some TLC sell for just a couple of thousand dollars on ebay only a few weeks ago.
this scenario raises alarms when considering the possibility of purchasing any 924, 944 or 968. the danger lies in new buyers, new to the brand, virtually clueless about what they're getting into -- but, can get into the Porsche game for cheap money.... but, it's even getting weird with the Boxsters and 996's.... there's a ton of upside down P-car projects waiting out there... one more reason why i think if you're going to put a ton of money into any '80s or '90s Porsche, i suggest you do it to a 911 (where 1 dollar back for every 2 dollars in is not unrealistic).....
if you do choose a 944, 944T or 968, plan on keeping the car for a very long, long, long, long time and in so doing, think very seriously about changing the engine over to reliable, V8 power at some point. knowing i'll be keeping my car for 25 years or more (barring any unforseen event) takes a good amount of the anxiety out about keeping and maintaining relatively expensive parts on the car. your 944Ts might not have a ton of super expensive parts on board, but the cars are extremely expensive in terms of wrenching time per X number of driving miles. no doubt that this situation causes a lot of the 944Ts significant downtime (stress). especially when running high hp cars.
06-20-2012, 09:39 AM
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You actually installed that motor? The one with coolant in the oil that was a 14k mile rebuild. You didnt check the rod bearings?
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06-20-2012, 09:56 AM
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LOVE the avatar this week...
Speen St -- that's where my hotel is during the week. Funny coincidence. There is that performance pcar shop (mostly 911's) near Central and Speen; maybe they were going there.
Speen St -- that's where my hotel is during the week. Funny coincidence. There is that performance pcar shop (mostly 911's) near Central and Speen; maybe they were going there.
a lot of good points made in this thread. Lart obviously has this process down.... but 944Ts are discarded for less $$$$ in places like Massachusetts, Connecticut and California because the masses moved on from these cars a long, long, long time ago..... it's so bad here, you'll be more likely to see an old Jaguar e-type than a 944 on the first warm, spring day... a 944T that sells for $8 k in many parts of the country wouldn't even get a phone call here in Massachusetts.... that being said, i saw my first 944 in more than 15 years on Speen Street in Natick, Mass yesterday (Silverish color. anyone out driving this car yesterday) ?
parting a perfectly running car has got to be one of the weirdest phenomenon in the modern used car world. weirder still - that we're talking about doing that to a P 0 R S C H E. yet with the 944T, this seems to happen fairly often to (apparently) decent running cars, or at least not in need some horrific amount of work to put them back on the road.... even 968s (when one comes up) sell for nothing dollars (now) here in Mass. the public has simply moved on to Boxsters and Caymans (and even that represents a different type of car-buyer altogether)..... nobody wrenches their own Porsches in this part of the country... we had a running 968 in need of just some TLC sell for just a couple of thousand dollars on ebay only a few weeks ago.
this scenario raises alarms when considering the possibility of purchasing any 924, 944 or 968. the danger lies in new buyers, new to the brand, virtually clueless about what they're getting into -- but, can get into the Porsche game for cheap money.... but, it's even getting weird with the Boxsters and 996's.... there's a ton of upside down P-car projects waiting out there... one more reason why i think if you're going to put a ton of money into any '80s or '90s Porsche, i suggest you do it to a 911 (where 1 dollar back for every 2 dollars in is not unrealistic).....
if you do choose a 944, 944T or 968, plan on keeping the car for a very long, long, long, long time and in so doing, think very seriously about changing the engine over to reliable, V8 power at some point. knowing i'll be keeping my car for 25 years or more (barring any unforseen event) takes a good amount of the anxiety out about keeping and maintaining relatively expensive parts on the car. your 944Ts might not have a ton of super expensive parts on board, but the cars are extremely expensive in terms of wrenching time per X number of driving miles. no doubt that this situation causes a lot of the 944Ts significant downtime (stress). especially when running high hp cars.
parting a perfectly running car has got to be one of the weirdest phenomenon in the modern used car world. weirder still - that we're talking about doing that to a P 0 R S C H E. yet with the 944T, this seems to happen fairly often to (apparently) decent running cars, or at least not in need some horrific amount of work to put them back on the road.... even 968s (when one comes up) sell for nothing dollars (now) here in Mass. the public has simply moved on to Boxsters and Caymans (and even that represents a different type of car-buyer altogether)..... nobody wrenches their own Porsches in this part of the country... we had a running 968 in need of just some TLC sell for just a couple of thousand dollars on ebay only a few weeks ago.
this scenario raises alarms when considering the possibility of purchasing any 924, 944 or 968. the danger lies in new buyers, new to the brand, virtually clueless about what they're getting into -- but, can get into the Porsche game for cheap money.... but, it's even getting weird with the Boxsters and 996's.... there's a ton of upside down P-car projects waiting out there... one more reason why i think if you're going to put a ton of money into any '80s or '90s Porsche, i suggest you do it to a 911 (where 1 dollar back for every 2 dollars in is not unrealistic).....
if you do choose a 944, 944T or 968, plan on keeping the car for a very long, long, long, long time and in so doing, think very seriously about changing the engine over to reliable, V8 power at some point. knowing i'll be keeping my car for 25 years or more (barring any unforseen event) takes a good amount of the anxiety out about keeping and maintaining relatively expensive parts on the car. your 944Ts might not have a ton of super expensive parts on board, but the cars are extremely expensive in terms of wrenching time per X number of driving miles. no doubt that this situation causes a lot of the 944Ts significant downtime (stress). especially when running high hp cars.
06-20-2012, 09:42 PM
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I'm going out of town next week and I need to park my 964 in the garage, so $1500 for the car, extra motor, I have an extra front bumper too. I am keeping the passenger foglight, front coilovers, strut brace, cat back exhaust. I have some 16'' wheels to go with it. I want to start off with a clean slate and buy a real nice 951 to go with my almost perfect 964.
06-22-2012, 06:21 PM
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I made the decision to part out my totaled 951 about 4 years ago.
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06-22-2012, 06:39 PM
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If the car runs, don't part it....just price it for a quick sale and be done with it.
There are several on here that can testify that the hassle isn't anywhere near worth it....and neither will the $$$ return you may think as of now you will get from it.
1. people will nickel dime you to death.
2. you have to pull all the parts (lots of time).
3. you have to pack and ship all the parts (GIANT PITA)
4. half the people that bug you to death about a part never actually pay for it
5. what YOU think it is worth and what someone is willing to pay for it are 2 very different things
6. you'll sell a $1000~$1500 worth of parts pretty quick and think "man, this is going good"...then it drops off like a rock and you are stuck with a hundred bits and pieces you never get rid of.
7. you should estimate that only 25% of the parts on your car will sell. So try to avoid adding up the price of every part and thinking that is what you will get if you part it.
Not trying to discourage you from parting it, but it does take A LOT of time and effort to dismatle, clean, picture/list, chase money, answer a 1000 email questions, sell, pack, ship, track...rinse and repeat for every piece.
Then of course you have the ones that want to return a part.....
There are several on here that can testify that the hassle isn't anywhere near worth it....and neither will the $$$ return you may think as of now you will get from it.
1. people will nickel dime you to death.
2. you have to pull all the parts (lots of time).
3. you have to pack and ship all the parts (GIANT PITA)
4. half the people that bug you to death about a part never actually pay for it
5. what YOU think it is worth and what someone is willing to pay for it are 2 very different things
6. you'll sell a $1000~$1500 worth of parts pretty quick and think "man, this is going good"...then it drops off like a rock and you are stuck with a hundred bits and pieces you never get rid of.
7. you should estimate that only 25% of the parts on your car will sell. So try to avoid adding up the price of every part and thinking that is what you will get if you part it.
Not trying to discourage you from parting it, but it does take A LOT of time and effort to dismatle, clean, picture/list, chase money, answer a 1000 email questions, sell, pack, ship, track...rinse and repeat for every piece.
Then of course you have the ones that want to return a part.....
Lots of requests for teeny tiny stupid little 50 cent parts, that took hours to figure out how to remove without destroying... then packaging, shipping, and then the buyer never pays anyways. He ultimately made money on the deal, but it took quite a few months (and a lot of BS) to get there.
I guess it all comes down to: what's your time worth?
