lart951

I have a 94k miles short block, for a tiny tiny fraction you can rebuilt your car, take it to someone else, rennlist is where vendors either die or live, 8 million members worldwide.

p5th

Lol! Will PM after the draft. Go redskins!

gruhsy

If I lived closer to you I would offer to fix the car for free. I have enough parts including crank bearings.
Very sorry to hear this happened to you. Have a lift going in my new house perfect for fixing 951's

Good luck to with getting it going again and don't give up. I went from Oct 1 1995 to April 14, 2008 without one and spent around 4575 days thinking about why I sold my first one

CyCloNe!

I say buy a used good engine and maybe change some gaskets and drop the sucker in. Maybe that's just me but I poor

lart951

someone screwed up along the way and the small duck always gets screwed, that happened with me with Black Forest Racing 10 years ago not the one in SoCal but the one in Florida

Bri Bro

Now Lart, you of all people know to wait for the facts before you hang blame. Spinning the #2 bearing is a very common occurrence with the cars and $8K for a rebuild isn't that bad a price. You need to put in close to $1K just for the rebuild kit and with shop rate pushing $ 70-100/hour, that isn't a bunch of time for two guys to R&R and rebuild an engine. Lindsey wants $4,300 for a 2.5l with stock components (no new rods springs etc) if they assemble it and you supply a core.

carlege

7k labor / 100 hour. = 70 hours

was told that book time is 38 hr


Thats the biggest bunch of crap i have ever heard. No way is that a fair price when the engine was in the possession of the mechanic and any decent one knows that you should be weary of the Rod bearings.

dp951

70 hours and $7000 is a little much, 2.5 turbo engine are every where on the net , Do some home work and learn these cars before spend good money on them .

Talk to your mechanic and ask them why are you the owner responsible for the engine damage and the total repair costs ? This engine was under their care most guys who build engine would or should off better assistance when this kind of thing happenes, Because it does happen more often then we hear about.

Ive rebuilt many 951 and 968 Turbo s and yes Im slow and a pain but one thing I do appreciate is a good customer and If there something happens this bad and the owner is good people so to speak Help him out .

It doen't take all that time to build one of these 2.5 s ... I ll offer you this you want to come down and assembly your engine at my little place your welcome to come down and we could put it together over a weekend ( no charge ) .

One thing you can't take with you is knowledge it's meant to be shared especially at time like these .

944 's are Great cars don't give up just learn more about them.

azbanks

Pick up the 968 engine from OD and then talk to David Raines. IIRC, he built the engine for DFastest. David quoted me a price of around 10K to do a complete rebuild and turbo conversion on my S2.

You can spend $8K for just a rebuild or $12k(including the 968 engine) for a full 3 liter turbo.

dp951

Hey I have a 1994 968 3.0 6 speed car running and driving for $7800 or I can pull the engine if you want a 3.0 to build .

I also have a 1989 Turbo S runs and drives for $13000


SO many options

Bri Bro

If there was a problem with the work done at the shop, the shop has insurance for this and should make it right. If the bearing was damaged by the PO and went out under load, that is were it gets sticky. I didn't see where the shop was asked to do the rod bearings....maybe they were. I don't know how one could R&R an engine and rebuild it in 38 hours. It took a lot longer then that for me but I am not a professional mechanic.

I agree that the key to owning a Porsche is to do as much work yourself as possible. My only point is that IF you take it to a shop, this is about the price you are going to pay depending on the shop rate. If you take it to a person who doesn't have a overhead cost, you are paying only labor cost and that can cut the bill in half. Do it yourself, it is only the cost of parts and your time and blood.

An example:

1986 - 1989 PORSCHE 951 (944 Turbo) Engine Rebuild $4,800
Remove and Reinstall, and Tune Engine $1,800

Parts to be at an additional cost if needed:

Pistons $350 each
Turbocharger rebuild $450 (Labor free with engine rebuild. Normal labor price $960.00)
Clutch Kit $750 (Labor free with engine rebuild. Normal labor price $1,120.00)
Spark plug wire set $165
Rubber motor mounts $95 each x 2 (factory- not cheep aftermarket)
Plastic oil pan baffle $75
Fuel injectors $95 each x 4
Coolant hoses
Crank case vent hoses
Idle system hoses
Ceramic coat exhaust manifolds $225
Ceramic coat exhaust cross-over pipe $225
Ceramic coat exhaust down pipe $95
Ceramic coat Turbine Housing $150
Jet Hot coat intake manifold (polished look) $180
Complete exhaust system - See our parts page
Camshaft, crankshaft, rods, and any other "hard part" needed if deemed to be non rebuildable.
Distributor cap $45
Ignition rotor $25

http://broadfootracing.com/Engine_Re..._944_Turbo.htm

p5th

Right now I'm waiting for Dan to post dyno sheets to see what happened. Would love to fix car,just kinda disappointed. Like I stated when I service car I say "fix the car,whole car" don't know man. Confused as hell right now.

p5th

One other thing, if i was told car was ready for pick-up before dyno .......how? If afr's were off,did they test hi/low switch they installed? Scram switch they installed? Was/could all of this had been tested? Or did I just pay to have parts installed instead of working and installed? I had posted about car being ready, first last Friday then they said Tuesday. I asked for dyno after I was told car was ready for pick-up. What would have happened if I just picked up car with no dyno.

Jfrahm

Check the mileage, maybe the romped it on the street before it was tuned.

carlege

I would need to see a detailed write out before i confirmed that 8k for what looks like a no brainer simple bearing replacement, can be determined to be a good deal. Does any mechanic ever eat the cost of an engine rebuild if they tear up the engine or give a reduced cost price if somehow they are partially at fault?

as far as i would be concerned. Bearings+ gaskets and you are on the road unless the crank is scored then that would complicate it further.