333pg333

Well it's certainly a way of achieving that. Perhaps a bit drastic for most applications although that's strictly up to you of course. That's why I mentioned the Race Tech display. Even though you can't read it clearly in the video, you can see what I mean by being able to have the best of both worlds.
You could mount it like I did, or to the side somewhere. Not as comprehensive as the Motec unit, but clearly not priced in the same stratosphere either.
Not trying to oversell the unit I have for sale, just saying. It's just sitting here doing nothing if anyone wants it.

We did a BMW / Porsche club challenge a week or so ago. 3 BMWs were involved in accidents. One of them a pretty bad roll where they had to load the car on the towtruck upside down as it was mashed pretty badly. Some of our cars are much quicker than this one so I feel it's time to get safer. With the cage, harness, HANS, and now a lot more headroom from the non sunroof conversion, it feels like there is a lot more margin to walk away from a bad one.

Not sure which pic you're thinking of Bruce, but the car is Black, Black, Black. Actually I'm very happy with the paintjob considering it was cheap for around these parts....well cheap-ish...

As for getting back in the car soon...I guess it's not too far off being driveable. The DJ Engineering wing has arrived so that will take some work to figure and fab it to the car. Want to lean it back a bit, but am a bit concerned about too much understeer / lift as it can provide a ton of downforce. We're going to run some ride height sensors to do some data logging of the aero and suspension.
It will be very similar to the wing shown here in a local Beefy R34. I'm not looking at going up to such a large splitter...I hope!!!

TonyG

That's a LOT of wing and it's a double element to top it off. No wonder the handling concerns.

I think it's too much personally (way way too much)... for a number of reasons.

That wing would only be worth it on tracks where you need huge rear stick at 75-90mph. Past that it's gonna be a giant parachute what will for sure cause the car to push.



TonyG

Scott H

Patrick: I entirely meant to ask about you're nose piece when I was up there a few weeks back but weather was moving in and it slipped my mind in the rush to get back on the road. I got to about Saint Augustine when I said "FXCK! I knew I forgot something!" Have you been able to contact either Albert or Kelli recently?

Besides that, it's looking great! That is going to be one hell of a car when you're done. What am I saying? It already is!

333pg333

The wing will be configurable in single and dual phase. Also we can mount it further forwards or backwards depending on the struts we make.

Bit of a shame but thanks for the thought Scott. As far as contact goes, no luck. Not since June. I've left dozens of either emails or phone messages to no avail. Dealing with vendors / builders can be tricky at times and that's being generous. Being half way across the globe doesn't help.

TonyG

Patrick

2 things.

1: I had the same brace under the car as you. I cut it back back on each side so I could take out more of the spare tire well. The sides of the cuts on each side have a flat plate welded in (on the horizontal plan).

I must be losing my mind because I completely forgot doing that mod when I cut the spare tire well out.l


2: I haven't got a pic of the front end of my car because it's still on the lift with no front wheels.. but here's a side pic at a track event last year where you can see how the 315 front tires sit in relation to the fender.

Note the wing angle. This is not normal and was only turned up because this was a flat slow speed track and I was trying to get a bit more rear bite because it had been wet earlier in the day.

Normally the wing side plates are about flat.

TonyG

333pg333

Wow, I can't believe how you can squeeze those 315s under there so cleanly compared to mine!! From memory you're running wider front f/g fenders, yes? Are they GT racing? Still I guess I must be leaving a bit on the table due to offset.

Yes, I thought looking at that pic of the underside of your car it looked like some aftermarket fabbing had taken place. Thanks for the confirmation. Could be that the wheel well area usage is temporary on mine.
Eventually I want to work on a flat bottom setup with diffuser.

Noted on the wing. We will run ride height sensors and obviously have to play around a bit. If you're interested, I asked questions on Pelican about aero. Got some interesting answers.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-out-aero.html

Btw, what clutch / pp are you running?

Is that a 997 Cup next to yours and do you run against that level of car?

333pg333

Oh, Btw, I got an email from Kelli Broadfoot today asking for my shipping address. So I guess word got through. As I said to her, I wasn't wanting to come across as an impatient ***-hat. Just wanted some communication is all. Seems to be a rare commodity for us Ozzie customers of many items.....

TonyG

The fenders are 1" wider than stock and are from AIR. They fit "OK".

But even without the 1" wider fenders... you can see the tires would still fit.

The front runs typically between -2 & -2.5 degrees negative camber.

The wheels are factory 9" Cup2 wheels, widened 2" on the inside, then spaced out 3/8" in the front and 1" in the rear.

The rear fenders are stock but pulled out using a fender roller. No other mods to the rear fenders.

The rears run the same between -2 & -2.5 degrees negative camber.


So yeah... if you're tricky, you can fit them in but you have to know the setup.... or go wide body and just push things out.

TonyG

azbanks

IIRC, Tony is running 17 inch wheels, not 18's, that can make a bit of difference in fitment.

TonyG

the front rims are 11" wide.

The tires are 12" wide (at the tread) FWIW.






TonyG

333pg333

My fronts are 10.5" but 18". Wouldn't have thought 18" is a problem though as the OD is about the same.
Even with stock fenders you would think that the GT2 flares would be large enough and cover about the same as yours from the front angle? I'm really curious just how much space I have on the inside. Car is in another shop getting the body wired. I'll have to check once we can get it up on the hoist again.

The rears are very tight too. That's with 320/645 slicks on there. I wanted to lower the car a bit but it's not looking possible.

TonyG

Get the car on the rack and look at the rim-to-strut clearance.

I use short springs and angle the struts away from the wheel so I can get extra clearance.

Even with the struts angled as far from the wheels as possible, I can still easily get about -2.75 negative camber in the front with the camber plates.

TonyG

333pg333

Yep. We normally run more like -3.5 on the front but it's all going to be a bit of a compromise between ride height, camber (AND castor), plus aero.

Eric_Oz_S2

Car is looking very impressive Patrick!

MC 968CS

Well this car is going to be amazing Pat. I can't wait to see you blast past me next season. Good luck finalizing the build, it's going to be a weapon mate.