Vitesse Stage 3 - 446rwhp
04-15-2003, 06:59 PM
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John,
If you are already planning to use the 75# injectors, I can assume you plan on making serious HP, and using a large turbo. Going with this assumption, I can save you the time and money by telling you that the APE stock MAF is not calibrated for such flow. You can make it work, but you'll spend way too much time sorting your fuel curve. However you might have something that I don't know about.
My chips will not work with the APE MAF. The MAF sensors I use are different. I recently modified the APE chips for a local guy, but that's when you get into custom work.
I will have a MAF kit & PB for the 75# injectors, but I'm not done fine tuning them.
If you are already planning to use the 75# injectors, I can assume you plan on making serious HP, and using a large turbo. Going with this assumption, I can save you the time and money by telling you that the APE stock MAF is not calibrated for such flow. You can make it work, but you'll spend way too much time sorting your fuel curve. However you might have something that I don't know about.
My chips will not work with the APE MAF. The MAF sensors I use are different. I recently modified the APE chips for a local guy, but that's when you get into custom work.
I will have a MAF kit & PB for the 75# injectors, but I'm not done fine tuning them.
04-15-2003, 06:59 PM
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As I write this I am waving a checkered flag and screaming Powerhaus! I believe I have the fastest street legal 951 in North America. Go to Powerhaus.com and click on (HOT). You'll see the dyno and a pic of my car. I've been with David Raines(owner) for over seven years and have been in contact with him for over ten years; three years before I even bought the car. He is by far one of the most upstanding, straight forward, and most importantly honest men in the business. I've read here that you can't have this power and daily driveability at the same time. Correction. It is a daily driver. I also have a bullit proof V12 750il BMW. It's BMW's flagship of luxury and my little 951 drives every bit as easy and the Beemer. A little tidbit to help prove my point. I've been caught stop and go traffic in 117 degree Vegas heat for 35 minutes. Not only did the car never go into the red, it barely moved above the second white line. When I first brought the car back from Powerhaus in Scottsdale, I had to get it registered again. I forgot to let the car warm up and went straight to the smog station first thing in the morning. The car was only running for SIX minutes when it passed the test. Not to big of a feat except that I did it with no cat. Just a straight pipe on a full B&B exhaust!! On the other hand, that means it also blows a huge cloud of fire in between shifts when I get on it. A beautiful thing. David himself has the same motor with a different cam and turbo and has 90,000 miles on it. It's the only car he drives. He not only drives it everyday, he drives it to the track, kicks everyones but and drives it home. So my car's driveablility is the best of both worlds. Docile in every day traffic and then completely demonic in it's relentless pursuit of speeds that most people will never know, humbling cars whose owners truly believe they are driving fast cars. I personally know the takeoff and landing speed of commercial jets (155-160mph)as I regularly tool along next to the runways on a street in Vegas that runs parallel to them late at night. To date, I've taken Z06 Corvettes, Vipers, a cobra replica with a worked 302(thank god it wasn't a 427), and a twin turbo lotus. The M3, Camaro SS, and Saleen Mustang guys seem to really take it hard. The ultimate though would have to be a GSXR 750 bike from 120 mph to 185(it was close though), a Henessey Venom 550 Viper, and yes even the almighty 996 twin turbo-two of them. One I believe was a GT2. At least he had the body kit to look like one. Didn't make a difference. One of the twin turbo guys wouldn't let it go so after three or four tries, I positioned him to my right in the center lane and I spanked him in a way he will never forget. I out accelerated hime by about six car lengths, hit the brakes to let him catch up, swung behind him and into the right lane and hit it until I was about ten car lenghts in front of him, only to swing back over into the left lane again and hit the brakes actually running a complete circle around him while he was still accelerating. There are not enough words to describe what this car makes me feel like and how bad it makes other cars performance look. Powerhaus...nuf'said and I've alreadly said way too much.
04-15-2003, 07:24 PM
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Let me introduce you to something...
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haha j/k
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There's quite a few big power daily drivers here. I track mine extensively, drive it to and from work everyday, even in the snow at -40C. Not a hiccup at all.
Porsche engineered a great car, even a dumbass computer geek like me can make it go fast and reliable. I looked into powerhaus myself before the project started, too rich for my blood. 480rwhp? I swear there's a 500+rwhp street legal 3.0L 951 here...
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haha j/k
.There's quite a few big power daily drivers here. I track mine extensively, drive it to and from work everyday, even in the snow at -40C. Not a hiccup at all.
Porsche engineered a great car, even a dumbass computer geek like me can make it go fast and reliable. I looked into powerhaus myself before the project started, too rich for my blood. 480rwhp? I swear there's a 500+rwhp street legal 3.0L 951 here...
04-15-2003, 07:33 PM
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dfeastest951,
Impressive, but have your boost turned up when you come through Northern California for a cruise. There is starting to be more and more 951's that can run close to that with the right octane/boost.
Impressive, but have your boost turned up when you come through Northern California for a cruise. There is starting to be more and more 951's that can run close to that with the right octane/boost.
04-15-2003, 07:47 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by fast951:
<strong>SamGrant951, Is your comment directed to me or to DFATEST951?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">DFATEST951. Not you fast951, I love hearing about the updates.
He seems to love copy/pasting the same thing over and over and over...not a big deal, just seen the exact words a few times in different threads, thats all. carry on all
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<strong>SamGrant951, Is your comment directed to me or to DFATEST951?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">DFATEST951. Not you fast951, I love hearing about the updates.
He seems to love copy/pasting the same thing over and over and over...not a big deal, just seen the exact words a few times in different threads, thats all. carry on all
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04-15-2003, 08:31 PM
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While 480 rwhp is quite a feat I gotta say that was a fairly obnoxious post. Just a couple of observations:
First its pretty offtopic to this post other and its only purpose seems to be for the "haha in you face" value to John (Fast951) who is talking who is giving some information about his project. Show some respect and post to a new topic if you gotta chest thump.
Second, I'm betting that you put a lot more money into getting your car to the 480 rwhp point than John's build that used only bolt-ons with a stock bottom end. Just a hunch but I'm betting you don't have a stock bottom end and spent some serious coin in building your engine. Not to take anything away from Powerhaus, but if you take buckets full of money to just about any serious tuner and say that you want a 500 hp engine they will set you up. If your in doubt give Bob Norwood a call, I'm sure he'll help you out.
Third if you're gonna talk trash let see a dyno chart, and some spec on your motor - displacement etc.
Forth, you want to impress us - build your own motor - like John. Buying a monster engine from Powerhaus only proves that Powerhaus can build motors and you can spend money. I've got lots of friend who can spend money so that doesn't impress me. On the other hand anyone who can plan and build his own engine - they impress me.
And finally I'm fairly certain that’s not the fastest 951 on the street. I believe several tuners such as Scott Gnomes and John Milledge have built 500 rwhp street legal cars.
Oh and if you want to extol more of your "I blew that dude who was driving (insert your favorite supercar here) away” - take it the track and prove it against people who know how to drive. Beating a bunch of posers in nice cars doesn’t impress me.
Flame away brother.
While 480 rwhp is quite a feat I gotta say that was a fairly obnoxious post. Just a couple of observations:
First its pretty offtopic to this post other and its only purpose seems to be for the "haha in you face" value to John (Fast951) who is talking who is giving some information about his project. Show some respect and post to a new topic if you gotta chest thump.
Second, I'm betting that you put a lot more money into getting your car to the 480 rwhp point than John's build that used only bolt-ons with a stock bottom end. Just a hunch but I'm betting you don't have a stock bottom end and spent some serious coin in building your engine. Not to take anything away from Powerhaus, but if you take buckets full of money to just about any serious tuner and say that you want a 500 hp engine they will set you up. If your in doubt give Bob Norwood a call, I'm sure he'll help you out.
Third if you're gonna talk trash let see a dyno chart, and some spec on your motor - displacement etc.
Forth, you want to impress us - build your own motor - like John. Buying a monster engine from Powerhaus only proves that Powerhaus can build motors and you can spend money. I've got lots of friend who can spend money so that doesn't impress me. On the other hand anyone who can plan and build his own engine - they impress me.
And finally I'm fairly certain that’s not the fastest 951 on the street. I believe several tuners such as Scott Gnomes and John Milledge have built 500 rwhp street legal cars.
Oh and if you want to extol more of your "I blew that dude who was driving (insert your favorite supercar here) away” - take it the track and prove it against people who know how to drive. Beating a bunch of posers in nice cars doesn’t impress me.
Flame away brother.
04-15-2003, 09:41 PM
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Quit posting this silliness all over the board...i don't really think you want people looking at it crticially.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by DFASTEST951:
[QB]As I write this I am waving a checkered flag and screaming Powerhaus! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">hmm...that's on point.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I believe I have the fastest street legal 951 in North America. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">this is relevant because?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Go to Powerhaus.com and click on (HOT). You'll see the dyno and a pic of my car.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">um; no.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"> I've been with David Raines(owner) for over seven years </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">do your wife and kids know?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">He is by far one of the most upstanding, straight forward, and most importantly honest men in the business.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">no one has said otherwise
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I've read here that you can't have this power and daily driveability at the same time. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">You will read it again.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Correction. It is a daily driver. I also have a bullit proof V12 750il BMW. It's BMW's flagship of luxury and my little 951 drives every bit as easy and the Beemer. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Assertions...no one has argued them, nor have you provided any sort of evidence. These are your opinions.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"> A little tidbit to help prove my point. I've been caught stop and go traffic in 117 degree Vegas heat for 35 minutes. Not only did the car never go into the red, it barely moved above the second white line. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">umm...sorry counselor...that's not proof, that's another assertion.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">When I first brought the car back from Powerhaus in Scottsdale, I had to get it registered again. I forgot to let the car warm up and went straight to the smog station first thing in the morning. The car was only running for SIX minutes when it passed the test. Not to big of a feat except that I did it with no cat. Just a straight pipe on a full B&B exhaust!!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">what does this have to do with the current thread?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">On the other hand, that means it also blows a huge cloud of fire in between shifts when I get on it. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">and for a fat girl, you dont sweat a lot...How do square this kind of excessive richness with passing smog, and civility on the street? Does your lauded BMW spit flames? Do ya think that the piston walls and ring package are going to last very long with that kind of excessive high vacuum richness?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">David himself has the same motor with a different cam and turbo and has 90,000 miles on it. It's the only car he drives. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">at this point i have become bored with you and am no longer focused on the task at hand, but
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">He not only drives it everyday, he drives it to the track, kicks everyones but and drives it home. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Laptimes talk and bull**** walks.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">So my car's driveablility is the best of both worlds. Docile in every day traffic and then completely demonic in it's relentless pursuit of speeds that most people will never know, humbling cars whose owners truly believe they are driving fast cars.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">1. According to you
2. The pope would be unhappy. So would your outcome based education english teacher. Your sentence, comprised of a mess of subordinate clauses, lacks a subject.
3. I should point out that you are an owner who truly believes that you are drving a fast car.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I personally know the takeoff and landing speed of commercial jets (155-160mph)as I regularly tool along next to the runways on a street in Vegas that runs parallel to them late at night. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Bucking for a darwin award?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">To date, I've taken Z06 Corvettes, Vipers, a cobra replica with a worked 302(thank god it wasn't a 427), and a twin turbo lotus. The M3, Camaro SS, and Saleen Mustang guys seem to really take it hard. The ultimate though would have to be a GSXR 750 bike from 120 mph to 185(it was close though), a Henessey Venom 550 Viper, and yes even the almighty 996 twin turbo-two of them. One I believe was a GT2. At least he had the body kit to look like one. Didn't make a difference. One of the twin turbo guys wouldn't let it go so after three or four tries, I positioned him to my right in the center lane and I spanked him in a way he will never forget. I out accelerated hime by about six car lengths, hit the brakes to let him catch up, swung behind him and into the right lane and hit it until I was about ten car lenghts in front of him, only to swing back over into the left lane again and hit the brakes actually running a complete circle around him while he was still accelerating. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Wow...you must be fast AND furious.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">There are not enough words to describe what this car makes me feel like and how bad it makes other cars performance look. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">This is a tough one...I could have gone with "you have clearly made every effort to come up with enough, so I'm left wondering if you are inarticulate."
or with,
"Its a good thing that you have something to cheer about...a lengthy post like this with no discernible content related to the parent thread might make some folks think that your mommy didnt hug you enough."
I'll let the list decide which one makes a better closer.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Powerhaus...nuf'said and I've alreadly said way too much.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">On this we can all agree. Nice work ee cummings...mix in some formatting next time.
I hate to pile on, but this kind of OT prickwaving is really frustrating. If you are going to wave your dick around in the air, at least try to add some tech to the thread.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by DFASTEST951:
[QB]As I write this I am waving a checkered flag and screaming Powerhaus! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">hmm...that's on point.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I believe I have the fastest street legal 951 in North America. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">this is relevant because?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Go to Powerhaus.com and click on (HOT). You'll see the dyno and a pic of my car.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">um; no.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"> I've been with David Raines(owner) for over seven years </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">do your wife and kids know?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">He is by far one of the most upstanding, straight forward, and most importantly honest men in the business.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">no one has said otherwise
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I've read here that you can't have this power and daily driveability at the same time. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">You will read it again.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Correction. It is a daily driver. I also have a bullit proof V12 750il BMW. It's BMW's flagship of luxury and my little 951 drives every bit as easy and the Beemer. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Assertions...no one has argued them, nor have you provided any sort of evidence. These are your opinions.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"> A little tidbit to help prove my point. I've been caught stop and go traffic in 117 degree Vegas heat for 35 minutes. Not only did the car never go into the red, it barely moved above the second white line. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">umm...sorry counselor...that's not proof, that's another assertion.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">When I first brought the car back from Powerhaus in Scottsdale, I had to get it registered again. I forgot to let the car warm up and went straight to the smog station first thing in the morning. The car was only running for SIX minutes when it passed the test. Not to big of a feat except that I did it with no cat. Just a straight pipe on a full B&B exhaust!!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">what does this have to do with the current thread?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">On the other hand, that means it also blows a huge cloud of fire in between shifts when I get on it. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">and for a fat girl, you dont sweat a lot...How do square this kind of excessive richness with passing smog, and civility on the street? Does your lauded BMW spit flames? Do ya think that the piston walls and ring package are going to last very long with that kind of excessive high vacuum richness?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">David himself has the same motor with a different cam and turbo and has 90,000 miles on it. It's the only car he drives. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">at this point i have become bored with you and am no longer focused on the task at hand, but
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">He not only drives it everyday, he drives it to the track, kicks everyones but and drives it home. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Laptimes talk and bull**** walks.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">So my car's driveablility is the best of both worlds. Docile in every day traffic and then completely demonic in it's relentless pursuit of speeds that most people will never know, humbling cars whose owners truly believe they are driving fast cars.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">1. According to you
2. The pope would be unhappy. So would your outcome based education english teacher. Your sentence, comprised of a mess of subordinate clauses, lacks a subject.
3. I should point out that you are an owner who truly believes that you are drving a fast car.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I personally know the takeoff and landing speed of commercial jets (155-160mph)as I regularly tool along next to the runways on a street in Vegas that runs parallel to them late at night. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Bucking for a darwin award?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">To date, I've taken Z06 Corvettes, Vipers, a cobra replica with a worked 302(thank god it wasn't a 427), and a twin turbo lotus. The M3, Camaro SS, and Saleen Mustang guys seem to really take it hard. The ultimate though would have to be a GSXR 750 bike from 120 mph to 185(it was close though), a Henessey Venom 550 Viper, and yes even the almighty 996 twin turbo-two of them. One I believe was a GT2. At least he had the body kit to look like one. Didn't make a difference. One of the twin turbo guys wouldn't let it go so after three or four tries, I positioned him to my right in the center lane and I spanked him in a way he will never forget. I out accelerated hime by about six car lengths, hit the brakes to let him catch up, swung behind him and into the right lane and hit it until I was about ten car lenghts in front of him, only to swing back over into the left lane again and hit the brakes actually running a complete circle around him while he was still accelerating. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Wow...you must be fast AND furious.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">There are not enough words to describe what this car makes me feel like and how bad it makes other cars performance look. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">This is a tough one...I could have gone with "you have clearly made every effort to come up with enough, so I'm left wondering if you are inarticulate."
or with,
"Its a good thing that you have something to cheer about...a lengthy post like this with no discernible content related to the parent thread might make some folks think that your mommy didnt hug you enough."
I'll let the list decide which one makes a better closer.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Powerhaus...nuf'said and I've alreadly said way too much.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">On this we can all agree. Nice work ee cummings...mix in some formatting next time.
I hate to pile on, but this kind of OT prickwaving is really frustrating. If you are going to wave your dick around in the air, at least try to add some tech to the thread.
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There are many options to consider, which is a good thing. If you like, email me directly and let me know your goals, perhaps I have a solution. I'll try to help, if I can. If nothing else, maybe I can provide you with some info that will help you make decision.
John
There are many options to consider, which is a good thing. If you like, email me directly and let me know your goals, perhaps I have a solution. I'll try to help, if I can. If nothing else, maybe I can provide you with some info that will help you make decision.
John
