Two finger salute...?
12-05-2002, 06:41 PM
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Two finger salute...?
does anyone know why Steve McQueen in the movie towards the end raises his two fingers and gives that guy that drives the Ferrari the 2 finger salute what does that mean...???
12-06-2002, 02:19 AM
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Yes. Its essentially the middle finger from England and the UK. Especially England.
No Movement to the fingers in any way. Just a simple presentation of the Peace sign, but with your palm facing yourself.
My Two month old does it to me every day.
So does my wife, who is from Northern England, but this is for different reasons.
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No Movement to the fingers in any way. Just a simple presentation of the Peace sign, but with your palm facing yourself.
My Two month old does it to me every day.
So does my wife, who is from Northern England, but this is for different reasons.
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12-06-2002, 10:54 AM
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Yeah--the classic "two for you". I learned that in high school when we had a soccer clinic with some coaches/players from the U.K.--those guys were a riot.
12-06-2002, 11:19 AM
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When you think about it, why would anyone want to do to some guy who pissed you off what the motion implies? As George Carlin would say, wierd....
Who started this thing, anyway?
My kids used to call their middle finger the swear finger. I have no idea where they picked that up.
Who started this thing, anyway?
My kids used to call their middle finger the swear finger. I have no idea where they picked that up.
12-06-2002, 11:24 AM
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The two fingered salute is exclusively an English taunt directed towards the French, that dates back to medival battles between the Brits and the French.
The story is that the English would capture the French Archers, and cut off thier arrow fingers, so that they would become useless, as back then soldiers were trained in only one specialty.
Then in the Battlefield, the English would hold up thier two fingers as a warning to French archers of what fate awaits them upon capture.
The story is that the English would capture the French Archers, and cut off thier arrow fingers, so that they would become useless, as back then soldiers were trained in only one specialty.
Then in the Battlefield, the English would hold up thier two fingers as a warning to French archers of what fate awaits them upon capture.
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12-06-2002, 12:35 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Rich Sandor:
<strong>The two fingered salute is exclusively an English taunt directed towards the French, that dates back to medival battles between the Brits and the French.
The story is that the English would capture the French Archers, and cut off thier arrow fingers, so that they would become useless, as back then soldiers were trained in only one specialty.
Then in the Battlefield, the English would hold up thier two fingers as a warning to French archers of what fate awaits them upon capture.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Very very close!
What it actually was, was that during the battle of Agincourt between the French and English, if an English archer got caught, then they would chop off the first two fingers of his right hand so that when (if??) he returned, he would be no use.
The V-sign was an act of defiancy from the English as to say Oy, Frenchie, look, I've still got my two string fingers!
The single finger basically is a little more crude! Must have been started by the French as they didn't quite follow the English sense of Humour
<strong>The two fingered salute is exclusively an English taunt directed towards the French, that dates back to medival battles between the Brits and the French.
The story is that the English would capture the French Archers, and cut off thier arrow fingers, so that they would become useless, as back then soldiers were trained in only one specialty.
Then in the Battlefield, the English would hold up thier two fingers as a warning to French archers of what fate awaits them upon capture.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Very very close!
What it actually was, was that during the battle of Agincourt between the French and English, if an English archer got caught, then they would chop off the first two fingers of his right hand so that when (if??) he returned, he would be no use.
The V-sign was an act of defiancy from the English as to say Oy, Frenchie, look, I've still got my two string fingers!
The single finger basically is a little more crude! Must have been started by the French as they didn't quite follow the English sense of Humour
12-06-2002, 02:32 PM
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Great Fun!!!
I participate in living history, 42nd Regt of Foot (Royal Highland Regt), War of the American Rebellion.
At a Public Days celebration in Colonial Williamsburg I spied a French Officer near the powder magazine. My wife and I approached the fellow and I raised my right hand, back of hand facing him, thumb and fingers extended and index and middle fingers (archer's fingers) folded back behind my palm. The Frenchie started laughing and said he thought it really grand to be insulted with a historically correct gesture.
I didn't know that so many others knew it as well!
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I participate in living history, 42nd Regt of Foot (Royal Highland Regt), War of the American Rebellion.
At a Public Days celebration in Colonial Williamsburg I spied a French Officer near the powder magazine. My wife and I approached the fellow and I raised my right hand, back of hand facing him, thumb and fingers extended and index and middle fingers (archer's fingers) folded back behind my palm. The Frenchie started laughing and said he thought it really grand to be insulted with a historically correct gesture.
I didn't know that so many others knew it as well!
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12-06-2002, 03:32 PM
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Jim,
Pretty cool regarding the living history re-enactments. I also like the reference to the "American Rebellion" instead of "Revolutionary War." If you are ever in this neck of PA, give me a hollar. I am a war history buff, and know alot of people in this area who are quite knowledgable regarding the Revolutionary and French-Indian War eras. Are you a fan of Robert Griffings' works?
Pretty cool regarding the living history re-enactments. I also like the reference to the "American Rebellion" instead of "Revolutionary War." If you are ever in this neck of PA, give me a hollar. I am a war history buff, and know alot of people in this area who are quite knowledgable regarding the Revolutionary and French-Indian War eras. Are you a fan of Robert Griffings' works?
12-06-2002, 03:52 PM
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In France Two fingers forming a "V" means VICTORY...
It is also a sign of salute when 2 bikers cross each other.
So when a french guy show you a V with his fingers do not knock his head off - It is a friendly sign...
It is also a sign of salute when 2 bikers cross each other.
So when a french guy show you a V with his fingers do not knock his head off - It is a friendly sign...
12-06-2002, 06:59 PM
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Thanks for correcting me pikey!
I was almost positive it was the Frenchies that got captured, but judging from your nick, I'll take your word.
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I was almost positive it was the Frenchies that got captured, but judging from your nick, I'll take your word.
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12-06-2002, 07:26 PM
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By the way, Stan, really nice pic. Stellar really.
By the way, Stan, really nice pic. Stellar really.