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Old 03-24-2010, 05:20 AM
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alright guys we may have found the problem.
with all the swapping that went on with the 2 cars, one being a 1986 model and one being a 1989 model. we ended up using a 89 model temp switch(gauge sender) which was on the engine that we swapped in.
we also used the 89 model engine wiring harness.
but the dash harness and instrument cluster are from the 86 car. so the instruments may not be calibrated to the sender. i will swap the sender over tomorrow and see if there is a difference
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Sean
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my money is on the radiator .
also drill a small hole in the thermo stat to allow the air to bleed through it
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Originally Posted by JET951
alright guys we may have found the problem.
with all the swapping that went on with the 2 cars, one being a 1986 model and one being a 1989 model. we ended up using a 89 model temp switch(gauge sender) which was on the engine that we swapped in.
we also used the 89 model engine wiring harness.
but the dash harness and instrument cluster are from the 86 car. so the instruments may not be calibrated to the sender. i will swap the sender over tomorrow and see if there is a difference
The water temp sensors are the same throughout the years so I don't think that's your problem. A good idea is to install an external sensor & gauge to verify the readings.
Old 03-24-2010, 07:16 AM
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Thanks Duke,
for some reason i was thinking that they are not the same. i will look over the PET in the morning. dont know why i thought they were different.
Old 03-24-2010, 08:42 AM
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Regardless of what the sender says, you shouldn't be blowing steam out the bleed screw unless it wasn't properly bled or something w/ the head(gasket) is wonky (<< technical term)..
Old 03-24-2010, 07:54 PM
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Head lift on the 944's could be due to the length of the studs. There is a long length of metal between the studs to stretch compare to other cars.
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metal ? or aluminum ? the weakest part of the stud is the last thread ..
notice how real serous bolts are necked down to less than the thread core dia ?like CARR conrod bolts ..
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So what do we think of ARP vs stock? If we're going to do the h/g should we put these in?
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until someone tests a factory stud to failure there will never be a properly informed answer ..
but as people reporting they have increased torque by 20% on factory studs with out them failing wich implies they are only used @around 70% of yield. so to me ARP's are a waste of money ..
using a good thread lube with the same torque will effectively increase the clamp load (and stud stress) 10to 15 %
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
So what do we think of ARP vs stock? If we're going to do the h/g should we put these in?
Yes.
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Why George? Do you have any evidence to support that?
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Originally Posted by gt37vgt
until someone tests a factory stud to failure there will never be a properly informed answer ..
but as people reporting they have increased torque by 20% on factory studs with out them failing wich implies they are only used @around 70% of yield. so to me ARP's are a waste of money ..
using a good thread lube with the same torque will effectively increase the clamp load (and stud stress) 10to 15 %
First you have to define ‘failure’. Are you thinking that breaking is failing…or is non elastic deformation (yeilding) a failure? How about excessive stretch…or is it any stretch at all.

The ‘worth’ of the ARP or raceware studs is that they can be reused indefinitely. The factory studs are not technically reusable since they are a stretch fastener – but in reality they are fine for several reuses.
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Originally Posted by DivineE
Head lift on the 944's could be due to the length of the studs. There is a long length of metal between the studs to stretch compare to other cars.
You will only see head lift under high boost with heavy detonation....
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So what about installing one of those Steam vent kits. Worth it?
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
So what about installing one of those Steam vent kits. Worth it?
Yes....


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