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Poll. What's your HP range?
#63
wouldnt that only be like 15lbs on that size engine?
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From: Denver
LOL, you guys are way over-thinking this.
Its a dynojet - big heavy roller. Isn't going to matter much which gear you are in...
The 'uncorrected / corrected' is simply for atmospheric conditions.
-Rogue
Its a dynojet - big heavy roller. Isn't going to matter much which gear you are in...
The 'uncorrected / corrected' is simply for atmospheric conditions.
-Rogue
#67
A dyno should be run in as close to a 1:1 ratio as you can get. Thus the reason for making your dyno run in 4th or 5th gear.
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From: Denver
Yes I know this.
The dynometer knows this as well. Go dyno in 2nd gear, then do it again in fourth (back to back without changing anything). I bet peak HP will be within 5% of each other.
The dynometer knows this as well. Go dyno in 2nd gear, then do it again in fourth (back to back without changing anything). I bet peak HP will be within 5% of each other.
#73
depends on the dyno though...
some measure axle torque, which must be converted to crank by dividing by gear ratio...
some measure the time it takes to accelerate a mass (the drum)...
then using F = ma and a = dv/dt or the change in speed over time, F will be in lbs and coverted to T based on the machines geometry...
this again gives you axle T, NOT crank...
the driving force in any case is thrust a force in lbs...
assume a car makes 200 lb-ft at the crank and tires OD = 2', r = 1'
and it's overall ratio ~ tranny x diff ~ 5
Torque at axle = 1000 lb-ft
thrust or motive force 1000 lb-ft/1 ft ~ 1000 lbs
it's a trick some dyno operators use, put the wrong ratios in and manipulate the numbers...
older dynos actually turn a generator and make power (watts), which 1 HP ~ 746W
some turn a pump and make pressure which is measured and converted to force/torque...
but they all measure the force of the engine multiplied by the gearing (unless gearing is 1:1 overall), so the gearing must be factored back out
all except an engine stand type dyno
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From: Denver
The sheet was a printout from a dynojet, not a load-type dyno.
Meh - do the math if you want, but I've done back-to-back pulls in different gears on a dynojet, and know from experience that it really doesn't effect peak hp.
Meh - do the math if you want, but I've done back-to-back pulls in different gears on a dynojet, and know from experience that it really doesn't effect peak hp.
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Rogue is correct. The 3rd and 4th gear runs will come out within a few hp of each other (for example, on my car approx. 300rwhp, 3rd or 4th came to within 10hp of each other). I use to have a mustang 500SE dyno at the shop.
As far as making hp numbers, all you need to do on a mustang to make high (or low) numbers is change the weight of the dyno in the parameter settings. Takes 3 seconds. Boom 600hp out of a stock 2.5L NA Instant bragging rights.
As far as making hp numbers, all you need to do on a mustang to make high (or low) numbers is change the weight of the dyno in the parameter settings. Takes 3 seconds. Boom 600hp out of a stock 2.5L NA Instant bragging rights.
Last edited by PorscheDoc; 10-02-2009 at 01:09 AM.