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Old 07-20-2009, 10:26 AM
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Default I love turbo lag

You know, there's so many people that just despise turbo lag... but I think you should really just take it for what it is. I love the feeling of hitting 4k rpm and getting thrown back into my seat, it puts a smile on my face everytime that happens, and it is a part of the reason I bought my car.

I understand that it isn't the best for driving in the rain, or gunning it while taking turns, or for the track. But for a summer car that doesn't regularly see track time, I think that having pronounced turbo lag is actually a good thing. I borrow and drive my friends 12-second mitsubishi evolution once in a while, and for some reason it doesn't feel as raw and fun as driving my 944 turbo. It does handle like it is on rails, but for accelerating its like a linear pull the whole way to redline (it is a single turbo 2.0l 4 cyl).

Most people with newer cars complain about barely existant turbo lag, but I love my car for having it.

And note: What I'm saying is in reference to street driving, as for pulling quicker track times I fully understand that having turbo lag is kind of like a handicap... so don't flame me!
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I hate it. It give me that on/off switch type feeling. I wish it were a more linear power delivery. Some like that tho and it's fine by me! I liked it at first but it got old.
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Originally Posted by ModdedEverything951S
I wish it were a more linear power delivery.
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A wise man once said that NA engines and just turbo engines with infinite turbo lag….
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My previous MAF setup made all the power like an off/on switch and made it feel really fast. The Vitesse MAF made the car feel slower (extremely linear powerband) but its actually quite a bit faster...

so...overall I think lag is a PITA, but it sure makes everyone think your car is fast LOL
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
No thanks. I'm already working on a solution.
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Originally Posted by MM951
My previous MAF setup made all the power like an off/on switch and made it feel really fast. The Vitesse MAF made the car feel slower (extremely linear powerband) but its actually quite a bit faster...

so...overall I think lag is a PITA, but it sure makes everyone think your car is fast LOL
This is my exact experience with my large, previous turbo. The car definately felt faster with the boost explosion but it was actually slower. The boost explosion was also a safety issue. On several occasions I unintendedly broke the rear end loose on corners when the turbo spooled.

I am much happier and safer with my smaller, double ball bearing turbo.
Old 07-20-2009, 12:11 PM
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I hate it .. working on a solution for myself
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I've never minded it either.

Especially after driving my mother's Golf FSI with a "modern" turbo in it, which is much more progressive but also a lot less exciting to drive.
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if i get anywhere in the turbo range i have busted the speed limit even in second gear (i think) I just giggle when it happens.. i live in a major city and i very rarely get to hear the turbo. I like it too, it feels like the car transforms and is thanking me whenever i get on the highway or outside of the city.
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Originally Posted by MM951
My previous MAF setup made all the power like an off/on switch and made it feel really fast. The Vitesse MAF made the car feel slower (extremely linear powerband) but its actually quite a bit faster...

so...overall I think lag is a PITA, but it sure makes everyone think your car is fast LOL
Info on previous MAF setup???
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Morals put aside, you know what, I think if I didn't want turbo lag, I would seriously look into dropping a small block ls1 into the 944 turbo, that is about as linear of a power delivery you will get
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Originally Posted by bdesai7
Morals put aside, you know what, I think if I didn't want turbo lag, I would seriously look into dropping a small block ls1 into the 944 turbo, that is about as linear of a power delivery you will get
If I had it to go over again, I would consider this. I know everyone hates this idea, but I would also consider a V6. The HP/TQ numbers they are getting from V6s today rivals V8s of a few years ago. In my view, a 2600 lb, 350 RWHP 951 with a flat TQ curve is about as good as the platform can get.
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I am reminded of something a very wise man told a friend of mine back in the late '90s when I was into turbo Dodges (had a couple Omni GLH Turbos and was really active in the Shelby Dodge Auto Club.) Carroll Shelby came out to our national convention one year (the brainchild behind dropping the 2.2L turbo in the Omni) and was talking to a buddy, who was complaining about the turbo lag. Carroll's response was, "If ya got turbo lag, you ain't drivin' it right!!"

The only time I find myself frustrated with the lag is when autocrossing or trying to leap out into a small hole in traffic on a busy road. And now that I've had the car a few weeks and have put some mileage on it, it's not as bad as I used to think. I'm just learning to drive it differently from my other two turbo cars ('07 Audi A4 w/the 2.0T and an '03 GTI w/the 1.8T... which spool up INSTANTLY compared to the 951.)

Thinking back to my Dodge days, the turbo lag was actually a blessing in inclement weather. No boost (or power) until 3,000rpm meant that getting around in the snow or rain was a snap. I could floor it from a light and not make enough power to break the tires loose, and could get around relatively easily so long as I kept it below 3,000 rpm. My GTI, on the other hand, would be a total b*tch to drive in the snow if it didn't have traction control.
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did someone say something about power delivery


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