anders44

in my country they tax on displacement/volume etc. but if the car has been registerd for more than 10 years, you can change stuff and have 0 tax, a ZR1 corvette is about 350-400.000USD depending on the exchangerate theese days. heck, my 944T as a rolling shell alone cost 15k just because it had plates. but no doubt, Id rather have a ZR1 and not a 944 with ls engine.

CPR

Yes.

But most have already purchased OR had a 944, so the justification goes back to the cost/reliability of the OEM engines.

I am doing a conversion because I had an opportunity to get a roller on the cheap and thought what the hell. But if I had any issues with my 60k Turbo, I would have ZERO hesitation to put a 2.5l back in there. That one will never be bastardized....just couldn't do it.

The roller...in all that's left of it...well, that's a different story

333pg333

Mullet Mullet Mullet!!!...........there, I said it. I can't help it. It's just not right. I know it makes sense and I'm sure if I drove one I'd be a convert............but............why don't I put a twin turbo rotary engine in a 928 sorta thing. It's just wrong. Sorry.

Whisper

If it worked well, why not?

People used to think that about democracy, lightning rods, interracial marriage, vaccinations, atheism, and the internet. Progress marches onwards.

Seriously, at some point, both of these engines were just ingots of metal.

When did one get imbued with some magical quality of Porscheness? What quality is that? Where does it come from? What does it get us?

I like Porsches as much as the next guy, but they are good cars because Porsche made them that way, not because it was Porsche that made them at all.

DVC

Whisper- I assure you, when you first get to drive your LS 944, the last thing you will worry about is what some guys with no experience are saying on a forum. It's even BETTER than you can imagine

TonyG

What he said...

You will wish you had done it a long time ago.

I go to the track and don't open the hood the entire day :-)


TonyG

porshhhh951

You have no idea what your talking about.

blown 944

this ought to be good

spoolin51

spoolin51

DVC how much was your conversion?
looks nice

INURGRL951

Well Mr. Stephens I have been threw this before when there was a person I knew that did a V8 in a 911 and I challenged him and won with my 930 with a flat 6! So I am doing this again and IS VERY confident in my car to take up the slack for my mouth

There's nothing against the chevy motor I think each brand should just stay in there OWN brand BUT this is just my opinion. My car has a four cylinder and will always.

It just seams that there trying to find a "cheaper" way to have a 951 but if you can't take the heat get your *** out the kitchen

INURGRL951

Yet I stress I mean no disrespect to ANYONE this is just my opinion!

porshhhh951

So you are comparing a 944 lsx to your 930? I'm confused and no is the answer sorry. More displacement all things being equal will always win out. Its just the nature of the beast.

I have quite a few friends with lsx motors in various cars. Even a basic ls1 with cam/head package will make more than 99% of this board on pump gas. Lets not even talk about a built motor, or ls2/3, or god forbig ones with FI(yes there is a 944 with a lsx swap and a blower on this very board). The larger the engine the more capcity it has for horsepower.

Go to the track and find a well sorted conversion car. A 400rwhp 951 will get left for dead versus a 400rwhp lsx 951. Powerband is so much broader and there is more power available nearly everywhere but, at peak were things are equal. Ofcourse the lsx will run like that all season and the I4 may not.

As far as the street. Have you seen or been around modded lsx cars? I've driven and been in numerous vettes/camaros/240s/rx7s/etc with different motor setups. Lots of guys in the 500rwhp range and they literally beat the **** outta them, they run forever. Infact the first time I was ever really scared in a car was in a friends 94 ls1 rx7. He had a cam/heads/nitrous. Car was upper 500s hp/tq and would just accelerate so silly that it didn't seem real.

I take it where your from your not used to seeing guys with v8's fit turbos? I can't tell you how silly twin turbos on a ls1 are. Speed is realitive to your location and what your exposed too.

Rogue_Ant

Hmm, I disagree. The LSX powerband might be wider, but how much is actually used in a race? Since my car and Tony G's put down almost the exact same HP take a look at the dyno plots. Now in a race the typical rpm range is ~4.5k-6.5k.




Now tell me who has better average hp and tq?


-Rogue

TonyG

A V8 in a 911 is not the same as a V8 in a 944.

The V8 in no way physically fits into the 911 engine bay properly. Not even close (it's a silly conversion). Additionally, the 911's weight distribution gets even more screwed up by the installation of the V8.

Lastly, the 911 engine is unique, and to a large degree, the very thing that makes a 911 a 911. And it's reliable.

None of the above can be said for the 944 engine (and is the very reason that people are converting to the LSx platform).


The fact that you beat a V8 911 with your 930 only means that the V8's power to weight ratio was lower than yours. Big deal. The HP capabilities of a LSx engine far exceed those of a 930 engine.

The LSx conversion is fits better than the 951 engine, balances out, and is bullet-proof.

Lastly, the car is far more exciting and fun (and reliable) to drive than it ever was with a turbo 4.


I suggest you actually drive one before you render your opinion. That way you won't have to back-peddle in the future.

Bottom line... the LSx conversion is here to stay.

TonyG