333pg333

There has been a bit of discussion on some threads of late about wings.
As there are a few more aftermarket products becoming available we are getting some more options.
However I am thinking about something larger for creating some serious downforce on the track.
Ideally I really would like to create a lexan hatch that I could mount a decent wing on that could be removed,
with the wing for day to day road use.
I think this would require drilling through the Lexan and having the mounts go through there and be bolted into some
part of the subframe. I was sort of hoping to get around this by using the side supports from an 968rs wing and
attaching the struts or upright supports for the wing to these. Does anyone think this could be an option?
I've done a crap drawing of what I mean from a 968 turbo but you get the idea.
Or is this not going to support the downforce generated and we have to go for the traditional wing like the
other photos?

Then we get down to the wings themselves. What is good, what is bad? Is there a huge difference?
I mean, sure for the proper race teams every bit counts but for us it would come down to cost / function.
In other words will a $400 job be half as good as the $2000 ones? How much part does materials / weight play?
Would one of these big ones produce too much downforce?
I've got one of the CPR front race splitters on order so hopefully this will help balance that situation.
What do we think about all this?

I have put up quite a few pics with various options from mild to wild.
Please discuss.

Oh, the 2 black unmounted wings are locally made and cheap. Do we think these are at all worth thinking about?

333pg333

Oh, and I'm not entirely discounting the more stock type like in this picture. It would mean being able to have it on the car all the time too. Notice the extra lip extension.

thingo

We would expect that porsche did some testing for the 968trs rear wing, so I think it is the better starting point, and it is consistent with modern practices.

ehall

yes, and note the wicker bill on the back edge of the horizontal surface. I bet that car sticks really well, but I wonder about it's understeer.

thingo

Look closer it has an extra splitter

ehall

yeah, I saw that. I was just wondering. It would be fun to find out for myself!

333pg333

While I would agree that Porsche would have done some testing back then, I also might assume that the choice / design of wings back then weren't as broad as they are now. Plus there may have been something in the rules with homologation or the fact that they couldn't run a big wing on a road car?
What wing are you intending to run Rod?

333pg333

What do you mean about an 'extra' splitter?

thingo

That 968 has a carbon splitter underneath the standard splitter.
I think there would have been homologation constraints, but it is also a matter of balance front/rear, but I think if you have the horsepower you should use as big a wing as you can use in a balanced set up.
Say like this

Duke

Here's a pic of the kind of setup you're talking about Patrick:

333pg333

Ah, Exactly Duke!! Thanks for that. I always had a hard time explaining that over the phone or with written word. That's what my crappy drawing is meant to illustrate.
So the advantage of that setup is that you can fit it all to the rear hatch and not have to drill, make sub mounts, and hopefully the 968 side supports take all the load and not the lexan itself? Do you know this car and/or it's history? Does it continue to run with this setup? You could mount any wing there I'm thinking. The one that Rod shows is nice, but some of these specialised products are very expensive. I really wonder how 'bad' the cheap one I show is?

333pg333

That's a nice looking wing Rod. I still can't see any evidence of the 2nd splitter unless you know this car already has it?

thingo

Here's a pic from another angle, looks like a piece of carbon from what I can tell.

333pg333

Ok I didn't think you were referring to that as the 2nd splitter so I was looking for something else?
That's a very nice example of a front engined Porsche. Can't wait to see yours.
It'll be funny for you when you finally do climb back into your car after driving the Evo for so long now.
Are you going for a big rear wing or keeping in the red car's theme?

Duke

That is Puppans previous car, the turbo cup. I think I have some other shots of the same wing setup on other cars. I'll take a look!

The 968 turbo s side supports are only mounted with 2 screws each so don't think it would hold up very well with a huge wing.

I think the cheap wing you posted would work very well! I have been looking at the same kind of wing designs, too bad it looks so rice...because the design do work..