E-85 MEGA THREAD
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so Sid what was the conclusion of the last thread in regard to higher compression less EGT and reduced turbo response. I'ts starting to look like E85 is alot like deasil as it has less energy left in the headers we have to choose turbos differntly.
Also it makes me realy wonder what one would get if one converted a standard 951 to E85 with boost increase at minimal cost
so injectors boost increase .
I think it is sliding up the list as the first and most cost effective mod rivaling chip and exhaust
Also it makes me realy wonder what one would get if one converted a standard 951 to E85 with boost increase at minimal cost
so injectors boost increase .
I think it is sliding up the list as the first and most cost effective mod rivaling chip and exhaust
Anyone wanting a plug and play E-85 setup needs to look at Vitesse.
As far as injectors sizing gos. I've had the same questions. Sid seems to think my pump(044) with 3.0 bar fuel pressure and my injectors(83lb) are good for 22-23psi of boost before runnning lean.
I plan on running 21-22psi. I'll make sure to post up the dyno sheets when I get them
anything under 35-40 degrees
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so Sid what was the conclusion of the last thread in regard to higher compression less EGT and reduced turbo response. I'ts starting to look like E85 is alot like deasil as it has less energy left in the headers we have to choose turbos differntly.
Also it makes me realy wonder what one would get if one converted a standard 951 to E85 with boost increase at minimal cost
so injectors boost increase .
I think it is sliding up the list as the first and most cost effective mod rivaling chip and exhaust
Also it makes me realy wonder what one would get if one converted a standard 951 to E85 with boost increase at minimal cost
so injectors boost increase .
I think it is sliding up the list as the first and most cost effective mod rivaling chip and exhaust
As far as taking std 951 and converting it to e85 and turning up the boost. That is what I did initially when I got my car. I didn't use bigger injectors but used FP. The result was better than most 951's up here. I ran a 13.8 @101 when most stock 951's are in the 15's @ low to mid 90's up here from what I have found from locals who have ran there cars close to stock.
edit:: I should add though that my car had a MBC and an authority chip
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Adam, the energy is pretty close to the same IMO the EGT issue is more due to the non liner head I think.
As far as taking std 951 and converting it to e85 and turning up the boost. That is what I did initially when I got my car. I didn't use bigger injectors but used FP. The result was better than most 951's up here. I ran a 13.8 @101 when most stock 951's are in the 15's @ low to mid 90's up here from what I have found from locals who have ran there cars close to stock.
edit:: I should add though that my car had a MBC and an authority chip
As far as taking std 951 and converting it to e85 and turning up the boost. That is what I did initially when I got my car. I didn't use bigger injectors but used FP. The result was better than most 951's up here. I ran a 13.8 @101 when most stock 951's are in the 15's @ low to mid 90's up here from what I have found from locals who have ran there cars close to stock.
edit:: I should add though that my car had a MBC and an authority chip
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I think in the future you are going to see alot more people following your footsteps in making the switch to E-85 early. It will allow them to run more timing and boost and be alot safer. If E-85 was around back when my car was running its old setup I probably wouldn't have eventually blew through a valve with that boost spike.
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Yeah unfortunately that was my launch technique with the stock turbo. I haven't had the chance yet to take the vitesse to the track. When I do i'll let you guys know what I work out.
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yeh they realy are a hopless drag car my beemer ran 13.0/ 119 it makes me consider strait propane again i'ts apparently gone EFI now and as it comes as a compressed gas you get a refrigerant efect as you use it .I did mange -10C inlets on a +10 evening it also has a 110 or so octane ratring
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I spent the last week or so working on my standalone maps for E85, Sid has been very helpful with the information he has shared with me. Today, after some more fine tuning on fuel and Timing I can say the my mostly stock 86, 75# injectors and 3bar FPR, 3bar MAP sensor, K26/6 is much stonger, than my previous chip/MAF and 93 octane. I am running 295/18's MPSC on the rear, 2nd gear around 5K I loose traction, first gears breaks loose much sooner. All I can say is this stuff is great and I can't wait to get my turbo upgrade installed. The current tune and mods listed above with E85 seems stronger than any other modded 951 I have owned.