I don't drive in the rain, do you?
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So the real issue here is throttle control and driver awareness? Common factor in both situations... the driver. The fact that the car is 22 years old, no ABS, no TC/PASM/Airbags/Blue Tooth/Rear Main Defibrillator/Onboard hooker etc etc. is not a problem at all for those of us who care to drive safely during the given the conditions.
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OMFG!!!! Are you daft? I'll bet you my car that I can stop faster and safer in MY car than that POS 'stang; wet or dry!! BTW, have you seen the chassis of yer 'stang?? POS mister, POS!!! Another thing, those pretty pics of test wrecks don't show you what happens when you smack a tree at 60mph; toast in ANY car. Not designed to get smooshed from the side either and the "impact zone" sure the heck is not going to help you unless you aim the thing as you are crashing... LOL!!! ![thumbup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/thumbup.gif)
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How fast do you drive in a traffic jam that you would really need to worry about skidding anyway?
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So the real issue here is throttle control and driver awareness? Common factor in both situations... the driver. The fact that the car is 22 years old, no ABS, no TC/PASM/Airbags/Blue Tooth/Rear Main Defibrillator/Onboard hooker etc etc. is not a problem at all for those of us who care to drive safely during the given the conditions.
Once again, why would I choose a 951 in the rain when I have the option of driving newer cars with more features?
This forum may not like the Mustang GTs, but they are dirt cheap, disposable and have all the latest safety features. For rainy traffic jams, they are the perfect car. The 951 is a wonderful hobby, but not something that I would want to weather the Seattle traffic jams in.
The daily driver that I really miss was my BMW 740il. It had most of the modern technology and built like a Sherman tank (even had the bullet resistant windsheild option from BMW). I had no fear of an out of control Suburban in that car. Its only failing is that it was completely unreliable.
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My 951 has 993 brakes, escort cup suspension, weighs probably 2,500lbs (a lot of carbon fiber). It will easily outstop the Mustang in a test run.
However, this is not about a test run with driver at 100%. This is about stuck in the rain, in a traffic jam, maybe while on the phone and being surprised by another driver. In this situation, I am better off with ABS where I am likely to slam on the brakes while fumbling with the phone.
And yes, I know talking on the phone while driving is not the smartest thing to do. But when the customers want to talk, I answer the phone where ever I am.
However, this is not about a test run with driver at 100%. This is about stuck in the rain, in a traffic jam, maybe while on the phone and being surprised by another driver. In this situation, I am better off with ABS where I am likely to slam on the brakes while fumbling with the phone.
And yes, I know talking on the phone while driving is not the smartest thing to do. But when the customers want to talk, I answer the phone where ever I am.
sorry...had to vent there. If the above scenario happens to you, it's YOUR fault, not the fault of the car or other driver. DRIVE...don't TALK!
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So the real issue here is throttle control and driver awareness? Common factor in both situations... the driver. The fact that the car is 22 years old, no ABS, no TC/PASM/Airbags/Blue Tooth/Rear Main Defibrillator/Onboard hooker etc etc. is not a problem at all for those of us who care to drive safely during the given the conditions.
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Also, Sandor, I bow to you
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Don't get me wrong, I'm a Porsche guy at heart, but the newer 2005+ Mustangs are a totally different car from the earlier ones, and they are very well built and designed - they are unbeatable in value.
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Are you saying that you are 100% focused at all times on driving while you are on the road? If so, you are probably represent about 1% of the population Most people don't have that luxury especially when spending 20 hours on the road per week. I drive a lot of revenue by phone with that 20 hours every week. Once again, I have never hit anyone but have made use of ABS a few times.
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I have been driving for 25 years and the only accident I have had was when I was stopped at a red light and rear ended by someone else.
Once again, why would I choose a 951 in the rain when I have the option of driving newer cars with more features?
This forum may not like the Mustang GTs, but they are dirt cheap, disposable and have all the latest safety features. For rainy traffic jams, they are the perfect car. The 951 is a wonderful hobby, but not something that I would want to weather the Seattle traffic jams in.
The daily driver that I really miss was my BMW 740il. It had most of the modern technology and built like a Sherman tank (even had the bullet resistant windsheild option from BMW). I had no fear of an out of control Suburban in that car. Its only failing is that it was completely unreliable.
Once again, why would I choose a 951 in the rain when I have the option of driving newer cars with more features?
This forum may not like the Mustang GTs, but they are dirt cheap, disposable and have all the latest safety features. For rainy traffic jams, they are the perfect car. The 951 is a wonderful hobby, but not something that I would want to weather the Seattle traffic jams in.
The daily driver that I really miss was my BMW 740il. It had most of the modern technology and built like a Sherman tank (even had the bullet resistant windsheild option from BMW). I had no fear of an out of control Suburban in that car. Its only failing is that it was completely unreliable.
Idea: sell the 944T to someone who will give it a good home
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seattle951: Your 951 is obvisouly becoming a track only car, which is totally cool, and a very good reason to NOT drive it on the street.
Track cars (especially race cars) are, IMHO, totally unsafe to drive on the street. For that, I don't blame you.
However, do you TRACK your car in the rain? If you don't - THEN be prepared for the a major ribbing, you *****.
Track cars (especially race cars) are, IMHO, totally unsafe to drive on the street. For that, I don't blame you.
However, do you TRACK your car in the rain? If you don't - THEN be prepared for the a major ribbing, you *****.
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Are you saying that you are 100% focused at all times on driving while you are on the road? If so, you are probably represent about 1% of the population Most people don't have that luxury especially when spending 20 hours on the road per week. I drive a lot of revenue by phone with that 20 hours every week. Once again, I have never hit anyone but have made use of ABS a few times.