Standalone EMS...?
03-20-2007, 01:18 AM
#46
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Yes, but it monitors it all the time, not just during combustion events. The good news is the sensor amp with the most support was developed specifically for the Bosch knock sensor on our engines.
http://www.viatrack.ca/
With the "-extra" code (that I'll run in my car) you can adjust some parameters, including the amount of timing retard...
http://www.msextra.com/manuals/MS_Ex...nual.htm#knock
Here's a screenshot of the knock sensing settings...
Its not the best system out there, but its decent.
http://www.viatrack.ca/
With the "-extra" code (that I'll run in my car) you can adjust some parameters, including the amount of timing retard...
http://www.msextra.com/manuals/MS_Ex...nual.htm#knock
Here's a screenshot of the knock sensing settings...
Its not the best system out there, but its decent.
03-20-2007, 02:10 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by DanG
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Its the ugly red-headed stepchild of the industry, which I'd like to blame primarily on its uber-low entry fee, and predictably uber-low experience level of the cheapskates and forum geeks that use it. .
Its the ugly red-headed stepchild of the industry, which I'd like to blame primarily on its uber-low entry fee, and predictably uber-low experience level of the cheapskates and forum geeks that use it. .
Well put
But MS v2.2 is not up to the task on some high-cylinder/high rpm engines. This requires at least MS II.
03-20-2007, 06:21 PM
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See I'm looking into EMS and I have no idea who to go with. Powerhaus is a Motec and TecIII dealer but David is retiring so I need to get with someone who will provide support as I have no clue how to work with it in regards to tuning. Which brings me to my next issue. I need someone close to be able to help me. Cris Carrol is in Phoenix and used to work at Powerhaus. He owns Turbo Craft and deals in AEM EMS. A lot of Supra guys use it and swear by it. I just don't know.
03-20-2007, 07:41 PM
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I have a contact named Walker, but he is in CO now I think. he swears by AEM as well. They will not support you if you buy a honda box and put it on a Porsche, and they will not support you if you put a race box on yourself.
03-20-2007, 07:56 PM
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since i've been using AEM, i've found their support is top notch so far. i'm in constant contact directly with their programmers and engineers. i don't know many companies that will provide that kind of after-sale support.
03-20-2007, 09:57 PM
#53
Well, then there you go. I have always liked AEM. I have bought and sold two of their computers since I Have a habit of hoarding parts I may or may not use in the future. What are you using AEM on? How did you construct the loom if it wasn't plug and play?
03-20-2007, 10:09 PM
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i think there are 2 separate AEMs...the AEM that most are probably familiar with is the us-based AEM Power...there is an australian company called AEM who are the guys who make the wolf 3d. at least as far as i can tell, unless they're affiliated.
03-21-2007, 12:52 PM
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Oh.
03-21-2007, 11:49 PM
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Just got a price estimate on an AEM system. Am off my rocker or is about $7,000 way too much? How much is everyone paying. I also found out that it has two settings for different sea levels but as far as i know, Vitesse engine management automatically adjusts to all sea levels for air and fuel. I must be missing something.
03-21-2007, 11:55 PM
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lindsey sells the wolf3d for $3500 complete;
http://www.lindseyracing.com/Merchan...ry_Code=WOLF3D
you can probably get it for less directly from bob at randomems.
the wolf automatically adjusts for all sea levels, engine temperature variations, air temp variations, battery voltage variations, and can adjust all of those for the fuel map, ignition timing, and boost control. any or all, your choice.
http://www.lindseyracing.com/Merchan...ry_Code=WOLF3D
you can probably get it for less directly from bob at randomems.
the wolf automatically adjusts for all sea levels, engine temperature variations, air temp variations, battery voltage variations, and can adjust all of those for the fuel map, ignition timing, and boost control. any or all, your choice.
03-22-2007, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nize
the wolf automatically adjusts for all sea levels, engine temperature variations, air temp variations, battery voltage variations, and can adjust all of those for the fuel map, ignition timing, and boost control. any or all, your choice.
Umm, this is what every modern managemtn can do. If it cannot compensate for barometric pressure, temperature (both IAT and CLT) and affect fuel+timing based on those changes, then it's not suitable for turbocharged car.