6 Piston GT2/GT3 calipers are here!!
12-01-2011, 08:09 PM
#107
Rennlist Junkie Forever
12-01-2011, 10:57 PM
#109
Rennlist Member
Does anyone know the specifics of changing over to a different spindle? I'm also running Racers Edge A arms and I believe my spindles have been tapped to accept a bigger bolt to run these, so can anyone say if this could be done with another spindle or is there a design / strength question?
12-01-2011, 11:37 PM
#110
Rennlist Junkie Forever
M030.
But I'm changing over to late offset, non-M030 so I can run adapters to run the full 996 GT3 setup.
Dan also mentioned trying 968 spindles. I actually sent Karl from Racers Edge an email asking his opinion of this and how to convert to a GT3 caliper setup from an Mo30, but I imagine he's busy with PRI.
All 87+ 951, S2, 968 (non turbo S, non-M030), spindles are the same.
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Your Racer's Edge A arms use a bigger diameter ball joint. I think 2mm larger but I don't remember for sure off hand...
You would simply take your non-M030 spindles and have them machined out to accept your larger ball joints. Carl at Racer's Edge can give you the proper diameter hole.
It's my understanding from other reputable people (I don't have direct comparative experience) that the M030 and the non-M030 spindles are the same except for the caliper mounting brackets. Again... If anybody has any info to the contrary, I'd love to hear it....
TonyG
But I'm changing over to late offset, non-M030 so I can run adapters to run the full 996 GT3 setup.
Dan also mentioned trying 968 spindles. I actually sent Karl from Racers Edge an email asking his opinion of this and how to convert to a GT3 caliper setup from an Mo30, but I imagine he's busy with PRI.
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Does anyone know the specifics of changing over to a different spindle? I'm also running Racers Edge A arms and I believe my spindles have been tapped to accept a bigger bolt to run these, so can anyone say if this could be done with another spindle or is there a design / strength question?
You would simply take your non-M030 spindles and have them machined out to accept your larger ball joints. Carl at Racer's Edge can give you the proper diameter hole.
It's my understanding from other reputable people (I don't have direct comparative experience) that the M030 and the non-M030 spindles are the same except for the caliper mounting brackets. Again... If anybody has any info to the contrary, I'd love to hear it....
TonyG
12-02-2011, 04:13 AM
#111
Rennlist Member
I think I have access to some '90 S2 spindles. Just wondering if they can be converted to run Monoblocks?
Wonder if anyone has a bunch of pics of various spindles to compare?
Also, will this mean having to get new hats made up due to a different offset on the rotor hub? Pity to waste these hats.
Wonder if anyone has a bunch of pics of various spindles to compare?
Also, will this mean having to get new hats made up due to a different offset on the rotor hub? Pity to waste these hats.
12-02-2011, 08:22 AM
#112
Nordschleife Master
They are easily converted to a monoblock caliper with a simple adapter.
Sweet rotors and hats. You will probably need to update the hats.
12-02-2011, 04:18 PM
#113
Rennlist Member
Thanks Duke.
I think I'll need to do a Sale soon with all the excess parts I've gathered. These hats/rotors might be in there as well then...
I think I'll need to do a Sale soon with all the excess parts I've gathered. These hats/rotors might be in there as well then...
12-02-2011, 04:38 PM
#114
Rennlist Junkie Forever
You should hold on.
Over the Christmas holiday, I'm going to have custom A arms fabricated to use a full 996 GT3 strut and upright. That allows us to use the 350mm GT3 rotor/caliper properly without adapters. And.... if you run a big enough wheel, you can use the factory Porsche adapter and go to the 997 GT3 15" brake setup...
Plus... it will fix the A arm geometry, use a much larger front wheel bearing, is more rigid and lighter. It's really the right way to go. Not mention all of the additional front suspension adjustability....
I've been wanting to do this for a while.
I just pulled the trigger today. I picked up the GT3 struts and uprights/spindles.
Next week I'd sending the 996 GT3 struts off the Bilstein to have them rebuilt and valved properly.
The new A arm setup is going to be fabricated at Speed Force Racing. We're doing it over the weekend in a couple of weeks.
Just sell your M030 crap and get the rest of the parts. If you can't find them there, I can get that stuff all day long here (but it's not cheap).
Tim will have the jig built and he can make a set for you (and who ever else wants some).
TonyG
12-02-2011, 05:24 PM
#115
Hey...
You should hold on.
Over the Christmas holiday, I'm going to have custom A arms fabricated to use a full 996 GT3 strut and upright. That allows us to use the 350mm GT3 rotor/caliper properly without adapters. And.... if you run a big enough wheel, you can use the factory Porsche adapter and go to the 997 GT3 15" brake setup...
Plus... it will fix the A arm geometry, use a much larger front wheel bearing, is more rigid and lighter. It's really the right way to go. Not mention all of the additional front suspension adjustability....
I've been wanting to do this for a while.
I just pulled the trigger today. I picked up the GT3 struts and uprights/spindles.
Next week I'd sending the 996 GT3 struts off the Bilstein to have them rebuilt and valved properly.
The new A arm setup is going to be fabricated at Speed Force Racing. We're doing it over the weekend in a couple of weeks.
Just sell your M030 crap and get the rest of the parts. If you can't find them there, I can get that stuff all day long here (but it's not cheap).
Tim will have the jig built and he can make a set for you (and who ever else wants some).
TonyG
You should hold on.
Over the Christmas holiday, I'm going to have custom A arms fabricated to use a full 996 GT3 strut and upright. That allows us to use the 350mm GT3 rotor/caliper properly without adapters. And.... if you run a big enough wheel, you can use the factory Porsche adapter and go to the 997 GT3 15" brake setup...
Plus... it will fix the A arm geometry, use a much larger front wheel bearing, is more rigid and lighter. It's really the right way to go. Not mention all of the additional front suspension adjustability....
I've been wanting to do this for a while.
I just pulled the trigger today. I picked up the GT3 struts and uprights/spindles.
Next week I'd sending the 996 GT3 struts off the Bilstein to have them rebuilt and valved properly.
The new A arm setup is going to be fabricated at Speed Force Racing. We're doing it over the weekend in a couple of weeks.
Just sell your M030 crap and get the rest of the parts. If you can't find them there, I can get that stuff all day long here (but it's not cheap).
Tim will have the jig built and he can make a set for you (and who ever else wants some).
TonyG
Good Grief !!!!!! 15 inch brakes???????? Maybe we can do endo stops in our cars now !
I hope pics will follow
Jason
12-02-2011, 07:17 PM
#116
Rennlist Junkie Forever
As another point of reference, I just saw these.... Porsche Cayenne Turbo Front Brake Calipers for 350mm rotors...
Looks like the side mounts might be close..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Porsche-...item43aaf5c37c
TonyG
Looks like the side mounts might be close..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Porsche-...item43aaf5c37c
TonyG
12-02-2011, 07:37 PM
#117
Cayenne Calipers
Could the Cayenne calipers be machined for radial mount like the GT3? Looks like basically the same caliper except for the mounting ears and no hole for radial mounting bolts.
12-02-2011, 11:54 PM
#118
Rennlist Member
They are slightly different and they only have half of the pistons made of ceramic.
They're definitely cheaper though. Must be some reason that they're not used in Racing though...
They're definitely cheaper though. Must be some reason that they're not used in Racing though...
12-03-2011, 12:42 AM
#119
Rennlist Member
Hey...
You should hold on.
Over the Christmas holiday, I'm going to have custom A arms fabricated to use a full 996 GT3 strut and upright. That allows us to use the 350mm GT3 rotor/caliper properly without adapters. And.... if you run a big enough wheel, you can use the factory Porsche adapter and go to the 997 GT3 15" brake setup...
Plus... it will fix the A arm geometry, use a much larger front wheel bearing, is more rigid and lighter. It's really the right way to go. Not mention all of the additional front suspension adjustability....
I've been wanting to do this for a while.
I just pulled the trigger today. I picked up the GT3 struts and uprights/spindles.
Next week I'd sending the 996 GT3 struts off the Bilstein to have them rebuilt and valved properly.
The new A arm setup is going to be fabricated at Speed Force Racing. We're doing it over the weekend in a couple of weeks.
Just sell your M030 crap and get the rest of the parts. If you can't find them there, I can get that stuff all day long here (but it's not cheap).
Tim will have the jig built and he can make a set for you (and who ever else wants some).
TonyG
You should hold on.
Over the Christmas holiday, I'm going to have custom A arms fabricated to use a full 996 GT3 strut and upright. That allows us to use the 350mm GT3 rotor/caliper properly without adapters. And.... if you run a big enough wheel, you can use the factory Porsche adapter and go to the 997 GT3 15" brake setup...
Plus... it will fix the A arm geometry, use a much larger front wheel bearing, is more rigid and lighter. It's really the right way to go. Not mention all of the additional front suspension adjustability....
I've been wanting to do this for a while.
I just pulled the trigger today. I picked up the GT3 struts and uprights/spindles.
Next week I'd sending the 996 GT3 struts off the Bilstein to have them rebuilt and valved properly.
The new A arm setup is going to be fabricated at Speed Force Racing. We're doing it over the weekend in a couple of weeks.
Just sell your M030 crap and get the rest of the parts. If you can't find them there, I can get that stuff all day long here (but it's not cheap).
Tim will have the jig built and he can make a set for you (and who ever else wants some).
TonyG
12-03-2011, 05:32 AM
#120
Nordschleife Master
Hey...
You should hold on.
Over the Christmas holiday, I'm going to have custom A arms fabricated to use a full 996 GT3 strut and upright. That allows us to use the 350mm GT3 rotor/caliper properly without adapters. And.... if you run a big enough wheel, you can use the factory Porsche adapter and go to the 997 GT3 15" brake setup...
Plus... it will fix the A arm geometry, use a much larger front wheel bearing, is more rigid and lighter. It's really the right way to go. Not mention all of the additional front suspension adjustability....
I've been wanting to do this for a while.
I just pulled the trigger today. I picked up the GT3 struts and uprights/spindles.
Next week I'd sending the 996 GT3 struts off the Bilstein to have them rebuilt and valved properly.
The new A arm setup is going to be fabricated at Speed Force Racing. We're doing it over the weekend in a couple of weeks.
Just sell your M030 crap and get the rest of the parts. If you can't find them there, I can get that stuff all day long here (but it's not cheap).
Tim will have the jig built and he can make a set for you (and who ever else wants some).
TonyG
You should hold on.
Over the Christmas holiday, I'm going to have custom A arms fabricated to use a full 996 GT3 strut and upright. That allows us to use the 350mm GT3 rotor/caliper properly without adapters. And.... if you run a big enough wheel, you can use the factory Porsche adapter and go to the 997 GT3 15" brake setup...
Plus... it will fix the A arm geometry, use a much larger front wheel bearing, is more rigid and lighter. It's really the right way to go. Not mention all of the additional front suspension adjustability....
I've been wanting to do this for a while.
I just pulled the trigger today. I picked up the GT3 struts and uprights/spindles.
Next week I'd sending the 996 GT3 struts off the Bilstein to have them rebuilt and valved properly.
The new A arm setup is going to be fabricated at Speed Force Racing. We're doing it over the weekend in a couple of weeks.
Just sell your M030 crap and get the rest of the parts. If you can't find them there, I can get that stuff all day long here (but it's not cheap).
Tim will have the jig built and he can make a set for you (and who ever else wants some).
TonyG