DDP

Ah I also forgot to mention you don't need the dry sump althought it'll prolly help.

MPD47

The stock oiling system will not support 10k rpm, period. Solid lifter 8v is a complete pain in the ***, and waste of money.

DDP

It won't support 10k rpms? Don't bet your life on that statement. Excuse me but um...What is your racing experience?

MPD47

Minimal, as I'm not race licensed. I've spent enough time around the automotive field to know that the motor wont support it without a serious cash influx. Ok, yes, the oiling system will TECHNICALLY support that type of redline, however the rest of the engine will not. Not to mention you will start to have oiling problems at those RPMs. To be honest, I take your suggestions with a grain of salt. Most of them seem just plain stupid, not to mention expensive, for a TEMPORARY MOTOR.

You might get a GLORY run out of it. But that's not the idea. The idea is a reliable, fun NA motor for ONE year.

Besides, I already know what your idea of a good condition oiling system is.

DDP

Well shucks, thanks for the compliments. I would think an ITB run car would be plain stupid for a TEMPORARY MOTOR. But I guess not. The stock oiling system will support that type of rpm. The motor however would not last very long. But for a TEMPORARY MOTOR, I would think 'why not?'. Well due to my extensive racing experience, I'm qualified to answer any questions you may have on the oiling subject, feel free to contact me via PM if you have any questions or concerns.

DDP

Ah, busting out the oil pressure jokes now. (Or was that a shot at the oil cooler condition? You're far too clever for me, I can't keep up.) I see how it is. Touche.

But if you had more racing experience, you'd see what I've been saying. It's really too bad.

MPD47

I have no desire to go to someone like you for any help I'd need. ITB's to much for a temp motor? Why's that, because I have a total of $200 invested in them? Oh no!

You're less than qualified in my book. Whatever racing experience you have (doubtful) or not (likely). (Afterall, not knowing the crank bolt had to do with oil pressure, asking if coolant would hydrolock an engine, etc) And yeah, that was a shot at the "good condition" oil cooler you sent me which was completely unusable with two rows complete smashed to pieces, that reminds me, I need to send that back to you for a full refund as we agreed upon in PM.

Race license doesnt mean = qualified or experienced. You're the LAST person on rennlist I'd goto for help, minus vwvortex boy. Your "extensive" racing experience means jack all.

Man I've been itching to start adding people to my ignore list lately, in 4 years on Rennlist I havent used it once, but the stupidity and drama has seemed to reign supreme this winter on here. How bout this, keep your argumentative crap out of my thread?

brent_strong

Everyone's an expert, Mike, didn't you know?

10k RPM for that engine would be completely retarded. Temporary would go from 1 season to a few hours or days at most. Plus, suggestions and help from Chris White > Mr. Derek RacingExperience.

Skip Wolfe

What the hell does racing experience have to with anything. I have some buddies who are crazy fast, experienced racers but don't know which end of a screwdriver to use - they have people to do that for them. What rpm does the stock oil pump crap out at?

MPD47

+1 and vice versa. I know guys who cant drive extremely well but are a hell of a wrench/fabricator.

I've read the stock oil pump starts cavitating around 9000rpm. But I cant confirm. Maybe 9fifty1 has the fluid dynamics background, or the racing background, or the race license that proves this!

DDP

Mr. Derek's Racing Experience > ALL

Mike, buddy. Let's just be pals. Good luck with your build.

MPD47

Now just pull the quote you changed out of your sig and we'll be fine.

allergic2milk

Theres been alot of focus on the engine aspect of the build. Besides the cage, what else have you been planning to get? Seats, any more suspension? Harnesses? Not that you need anything else, but safety wize are you planning some fire equipment?

MPD47

Not getting supression this year. Picking up a fuel cell, I sold my Sparco Pro 2k's but a friend "donated" a "new" (to me, but FIA outdated) set to me as I plan on buying new seats in '08. I have a set of brand new G Force 5 point cam lock harnesses I ran last year, the car has a nice suspension setup on it already from last year.

Turbo S trailing arms
Kokeln Rear subframe
Fabcar Control Arms
Fabcar Caster Blocks
Turbo S Hubs and Spindles
993 Turbo Calipers on all 4 corners
993 Front Rotors, 968 M030 rears
M030 Sways (Front and rear) (though I have a set of welts I'm debating putting on)
Bilstein Escort Cup (track valved, again, another thing I'd like to upgrade)
Ground Control Camber plates
All spherical bushings except for the sway bars.

Safety wise it'll be sufficient, safer than most street cars, but not quite to the fully track prepped level. But as I dont plan on racing this year, that's not a HUGE issue.

RolexNJ

Nice list of mods Mike. This sucker should handle really well!