Exhaust Stud material
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Exhaust Stud material
Got the cylinder head at the machine shop for a rebuild, got me thinking of placing studs for the intake manifold.
I recall that they are the same length and pitch as the exhaust studs.
The machine shop said they could 'copy' the exhaust studs, since they would be made from scratch, i would like to know, is there anything special about the exhaust studs? material, coating and so on? or just make some steel studs and forget it?
I recall that they are the same length and pitch as the exhaust studs.
The machine shop said they could 'copy' the exhaust studs, since they would be made from scratch, i would like to know, is there anything special about the exhaust studs? material, coating and so on? or just make some steel studs and forget it?
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They are most likely an 8.8 steel stud. You could check the PET or manuals to see if they list it as 10.9. I would also guess that the exhaust studs see higher temps and more stress. You should have them plated with something like zinc.
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Intake studs will work but there isn't a lot of clearance to put a nut on them (they hit the intake) and getting a socket on the nuts are difficult on 4 of them so you have to use a wrench.
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Eyal had a thread on this and as I recall the biggest argument against the studs was the potential for scraping the soft mating surface (aluminum or gasket) of the intake manifold under installation.
I also adopted the idea from Claus Groth of gluing the gaskets to the flanges of the manifold, so you know where they are.
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I also adopted the idea from Claus Groth of gluing the gaskets to the flanges of the manifold, so you know where they are.
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While you have your head off and some of the exhaust apart you might want to check out these threads. Offering a complete hardware kit from the head to tailpipe, when the two bolts from the wastegate to the car cost $21 buck each from pelican you can almost get the entire kit for the price of just the two bolts.
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/254994-951-exhaust-hardware-list-finished.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/259575-exhaust-hardware-orders-teaser-pic-added.html
Just a thought since you have some of it apart and are replacing some hardware.
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/254994-951-exhaust-hardware-list-finished.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/259575-exhaust-hardware-orders-teaser-pic-added.html
Just a thought since you have some of it apart and are replacing some hardware.
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Originally Posted by macnewma
They are most likely an 8.8 steel stud. You could check the PET or manuals to see if they list it as 10.9. I would also guess that the exhaust studs see higher temps and more stress. You should have them plated with something like zinc.
I never saw any indication in PET that show the grade of steel
Originally Posted by Jeremy Himsel
Intake studs will work but there isn't a lot of clearance to put a nut on them (they hit the intake) and getting a socket on the nuts are difficult on 4 of them so you have to use a wrench.
Originally Posted by Kyle Donley
While you have your head off and some of the exhaust apart you might want to check out these threads. Offering a complete hardware kit from the head to tailpipe, when the two bolts from the wastegate to the car cost $21 buck each from pelican you can almost get the entire kit for the price of just the two bolts.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254994
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259575
Just a thought since you have some of it apart and are replacing some hardware.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254994
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259575
Just a thought since you have some of it apart and are replacing some hardware.
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8.8 bolts are plenty strong for pretty much any auto application except extreme places like flywheel mounts, head bolts, suspension, etc. The intake manifold mounts are not a high stress application. 8.8 will be fine. Minimum rated tensile strength is 120,000psi.
Interesting site:
http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-in...ade-Chart.aspx
Interesting site:
http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-in...ade-Chart.aspx