Dyno'd the 951 today.
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I have to disagree. A clutch that can handle over 350rwhp is $1000 just to buy it. The list goes on. 480 rwhp will cost close to $8,000 dollars minimum in just parts. Don't under estimate what it takes. A 320 to 350 rwhp car can be done for around 4,000 plus the labor. If anybody believes any different please feel free to explain how they have done it. LR has just that. A 480 rwhp car. It's a race car. Tally up what it took him to get 480. I can see over my estimate just when you pop the hood. A kit like Vr is an excellent platform. But it's just that. A platform. I have no dought that his kit can produce 480rwhp. Add up everything else that you will need to allow the car to make it there. It's not chump change.
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Originally Posted by jimbo1111
I have to disagree. A clutch that can handle over 350rwhp is $1000 just to buy it. The list goes on. 480 rwhp will cost close to $8,000 dollars minimum in just parts. Don't under estimate what it takes. A 320 to 350 rwhp car can be done for around 4,000 plus the labor. If anybody believes any different please feel free to explain how they have done it. LR has just that. A 480 rwhp car. It's a race car. Tally up what it took him to get 480. I can see over my estimate just when you pop the hood. A kit like Vr is an excellent platform. But it's just that. A platform. I have no dought that his kit can produce 480rwhp. Add up everything else that you will need to allow the car to make it there. It's not chump change.
We are saying the same thing , i said if everything on his car is in place and perfect ( this includes that he already had an uprated clutch and the engine everything is perfect. ) then 400 whp is doable for 4500 but 480 is out of the question, that jump will require more .
Ooh by the way who is LR with a 480 whp racecar.
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"I hope noone has the impression that I slapped a bunch of **** onto my car and trucked it over to the dyno"
Ahh yea, I think we all thought that!!!!
Ahh yea, I think we all thought that!!!!
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"A 320 to 350 rwhp car can be done for around 4,000 plus the labor. If anybody believes any different please feel free to explain how they have done it. LR has just that."
Well, PorshhhhhJohn with stock turbo and just MAF/piggy back, WG, exhaust and 20psi, rolling off up top some, made 301rwhp. So add those parts up. Much less then 4K.
At least those are the main upgrades I think he had.
Isn't the VR basic chip package for a few hundred $$$ making like 280rwhp on 1 bar.
Well, PorshhhhhJohn with stock turbo and just MAF/piggy back, WG, exhaust and 20psi, rolling off up top some, made 301rwhp. So add those parts up. Much less then 4K.
At least those are the main upgrades I think he had.
Isn't the VR basic chip package for a few hundred $$$ making like 280rwhp on 1 bar.
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Originally Posted by toddk911
Isn't the VR basic chip package for a few hundred $$$ making like 280rwhp on 1 bar.
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He has basically guaranteed me at least 480 at the wheels and a free dyno run after all the work is done in order to prove it. It's gonna cost me a little over 4 grand. It's a great deal considering that he's going to install a new turbo, bigger injectors, have it for two weeks for dyno tuning, and he's going to install a new wastegate, a wide band O2 sensor, and an all new engine managment. The only thing attached to my upgraded turbo (other than the intercooler pipes) is a filter. No need for chips, and the car will be tuned for 21-22 psi. I'm hoping for 500 at the wheels.
I am very much the newbie and my dollar outlay so far is well over 6k and counting and I am doing all the work myself!!!
I shudder to think what a shop would have charged me so far.
Keep in mind these cars are like snowflakes and onions, everyone is different and when you open her up it’s just one thing after another, and everything I do mean everything cost money.
If you can get that kind of HP for 4k more power to you…But I would love to try what that dude is smoking
He has basically guaranteed me at least 480 at the wheels and a free dyno run after all the work is done in order to prove it. It's gonna cost me a little over 4 grand. It's a great deal considering that he's going to install a new turbo, bigger injectors, have it for two weeks for dyno tuning, and he's going to install a new wastegate, a wide band O2 sensor, and an all new engine managment. The only thing attached to my upgraded turbo (other than the intercooler pipes) is a filter. No need for chips, and the car will be tuned for 21-22 psi. I'm hoping for 500 at the wheels.
I am very much the newbie and my dollar outlay so far is well over 6k and counting and I am doing all the work myself!!!
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I shudder to think what a shop would have charged me so far.
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Keep in mind these cars are like snowflakes and onions, everyone is different and when you open her up it’s just one thing after another, and everything I do mean everything cost money.
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If you can get that kind of HP for 4k more power to you…But I would love to try what that dude is smoking
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Originally Posted by toddk911
"Well, PorshhhhhJohn with stock turbo and just MAF/piggy back, WG, exhaust and 20psi, rolling off up top some, made 301rwhp. So add those parts up. Much less then 4K.
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I have seen a k26/8 with 300 whp at 22 psi. Low milage 951s. Everything on the car was in tip top shape. This was the highest I have ever witnessed. I believe the mbc he had was hoodup wrong and running the turbo's ***** out.
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Originally Posted by shaheed
that guy was on here for months saying the previous owner of his car told him he had cheater k26, then one night he went out and videotaped his boost gauge and it suddenly became a regular k26/6. look at the boost curve for his dyno run, where the boost comes in and how long it holds it and then try comparing that to a stock k26/6 and see if they look anything alike.
look guys for a loooong time I had no freggin clue what turbo was on the car. The previous owner said it could be a cheater setup due to the fact the car was tracked alot in virgina. I still had never had the intake manifold off much less anything else so who was I to argue?
I took it to my mechanic who told me it was a stock 26/6 but, lets be fair here without ripping its guts apart how can we really know. It is the stock cold side and hot side housing...NOTHING IS DIFFERENT. to the naked eye it looks completely stock but, then again after researching the old huntley cheeter turbos thats what they were supposed to do.
My boost drops 5psi by redline. I think my car preforms like it does because i had a 951 with 20-25k on the motor/turbo/tranny/rear end/ect/ect/ and it was well cared for. I had alot of good parts put on by someone who knows there **** and boosted the heck outta it.
20psi falling to 15psi by redline on a small *** turbo like this one aint everything. My car is christmas slow compared to some of the 951's on this board. Its nothing to brag about.
After all this time who the **** cares. My mechanic says stock and when we were doing my HG swap I had several other 951 people over and they all say stock. My car just runs well for what it is..................a slow stock turbo 944.
It wont always be that way though
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Originally Posted by shaheed
that's a 26/8 jimbo, he was claiming this on a 26/6.
the car with its air/fuel cleaned up is prolly actually making more power now
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Vitesse MAF kit - $1850
72# injectors - $350
Lindsey Racing Dual Port Wastegate w/ Manual Boost Controller - $465
Vitesse Racing Wasted Spark Ignition - $825
Speed Force Racing Intercooler - $1035
Lindsey Racing Intercooler Pipes - $350
Zeitronix ZT-2 wideband - $520
Lindsey Racing 3" exhaust - $764
TOTAL - $6159
this also doesn't include new vacuum lines, 3bar fpr, forge bypass valve, and dyno time to tune the car
I will have dyno results soon.
72# injectors - $350
Lindsey Racing Dual Port Wastegate w/ Manual Boost Controller - $465
Vitesse Racing Wasted Spark Ignition - $825
Speed Force Racing Intercooler - $1035
Lindsey Racing Intercooler Pipes - $350
Zeitronix ZT-2 wideband - $520
Lindsey Racing 3" exhaust - $764
TOTAL - $6159
this also doesn't include new vacuum lines, 3bar fpr, forge bypass valve, and dyno time to tune the car
I will have dyno results soon.
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Originally Posted by porshhhh951
to the naked eye it looks completely stock but, then again after researching the old huntley cheeter turbos thats what they were supposed to do.