Clear markers and signal lenses for cheap?
08-07-2005, 04:23 AM
#242
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"They can be purchased OEM for around $110-$120 each all day long if you look around the 'net. Do you think they would be much cheaper than that from this company, considering the size of the fog lens compared to the turn signal lens, and the price they want for the signal lenses? Besides that, the foglight is glass. Do you think a plastic lens would be as clear and allow the beam to be projected properly?" Tifosiman
This ****ing cracks me up! You guys want a company , (out of their burned down garage) too produce a "semi-exact" replica of a lens that _Porsche was willing too invest their VERY significant name in, but you want it for less...from a group of people who have shown you ZERO results...in over three months minimum. AND...you have sent then "DOWN PAYMENTS" , BUT HAVE NOTING IN RETURN!
Klearz it's time for you too put up or shut up! Produce and let one of these customers give a testimony, or get the hell off this board. I don't care what your problems were. Business is business.
NO ONE SHOULD EVEN THINK OF GIVING THEM ONE ****ING DIME UNTIL THEY PROVE THAT THEY CAN, AND WI LL PRODUCE TOO YOUR SPECS! TIME TOO PUT UP OR SHUT UP...btw YOU ARE not A SPONSOR!
This ****ing cracks me up! You guys want a company , (out of their burned down garage) too produce a "semi-exact" replica of a lens that _Porsche was willing too invest their VERY significant name in, but you want it for less...from a group of people who have shown you ZERO results...in over three months minimum. AND...you have sent then "DOWN PAYMENTS" , BUT HAVE NOTING IN RETURN!
Klearz it's time for you too put up or shut up! Produce and let one of these customers give a testimony, or get the hell off this board. I don't care what your problems were. Business is business.
NO ONE SHOULD EVEN THINK OF GIVING THEM ONE ****ING DIME UNTIL THEY PROVE THAT THEY CAN, AND WI LL PRODUCE TOO YOUR SPECS! TIME TOO PUT UP OR SHUT UP...btw YOU ARE not A SPONSOR!
Last edited by ehall; 08-07-2005 at 04:40 AM.
08-07-2005, 04:32 AM
#243
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I wonder how Paragon, the significant sponsor to Rennlist, would feel about a registered user (non-member) putting down Paragon's prices and producing a low cost alternative... all the while with Paragons banner at the top of the page. Given the recent issues with Iceshark selling light kits (which didnt even have a competiton with a sponsor), he was made to become a "co-sponsor"... I would have thought at least the same would apply here? Unless there is something behind the scenes which I am not aware of, which may be the case...
08-08-2005, 07:06 AM
#247
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Originally Posted by ehall
YEP!
BTW TIFO Sometimes you're absolutely right!
BTW TIFO Sometimes you're absolutely right!
Whew! I guess we are OK since there aren't any other signs of a forthcoming apocalypse.
08-09-2005, 10:08 AM
#249
Hella designed the lense, Porsche used it
Rear units are Hella units, the front ones are Bosch units. I have heard through the garpewine that Porsche has woke up with this clear lense question. They are investigating some european manufactures who make these clear lenses. Seems to me there is somekind of copyright issue going on
08-09-2005, 10:49 AM
#250
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Porsche is offering clear lenses for some newer cars and the whole assembly is pretty cheap. I want to say $40 for the sidemarkers from the dealer. But I don't think they will ever get around to our cars as we are in the 15 year old class. That is when they start to stop providing parts.
And someone is going to have to certify the product, which they may not want to spend the effort on. For example, for the euro dual driving/fog light in Turbo and S2, no one wanted to cert the driving side in the USA so our stock lenses came with an aluminum blocker plate in the driving lens.
I sort of doubt we will ever get Porsche to make clear exterior lights for us.
And someone is going to have to certify the product, which they may not want to spend the effort on. For example, for the euro dual driving/fog light in Turbo and S2, no one wanted to cert the driving side in the USA so our stock lenses came with an aluminum blocker plate in the driving lens.
I sort of doubt we will ever get Porsche to make clear exterior lights for us.
08-19-2005, 05:12 PM
#251
I got one of the sets of the "blems" and I understand why they couldn't sell those as factory "firsts", but I cleaned up that second one and have them both on my car already and am very happy with them. The finished product should be incredible, if what I got is any indication, and I can't wait to buy a set or two.
Since Rennlist "sponsorship" seems to be an issue for at least some people, how about if I ask John if I can sponsor their product? Its not a product that is going to cut into anyone else's bottomline and its not a commonly available product. I pormise that I will not have any financial interest in the deal, I am not asking Klearz to give me a set complimentary or anything, but I think it really is a well done product by some folks that are decent to deal with and a LOT of folks would be happy to have this product at a reasonable cost. Klearz was upfront about how the whole downpayment thing would work, so I don't believe calling them out to "put up or shut up" is appropriate, btw.
Why don't some of y'all chill a bit before we chase away yet another vendor that decides putting up the "944 crowd" just isn't worth it?
Regards,
Since Rennlist "sponsorship" seems to be an issue for at least some people, how about if I ask John if I can sponsor their product? Its not a product that is going to cut into anyone else's bottomline and its not a commonly available product. I pormise that I will not have any financial interest in the deal, I am not asking Klearz to give me a set complimentary or anything, but I think it really is a well done product by some folks that are decent to deal with and a LOT of folks would be happy to have this product at a reasonable cost. Klearz was upfront about how the whole downpayment thing would work, so I don't believe calling them out to "put up or shut up" is appropriate, btw.
Why don't some of y'all chill a bit before we chase away yet another vendor that decides putting up the "944 crowd" just isn't worth it?
Regards,
08-19-2005, 05:37 PM
#253
The way I understood it is that Paragon was discontinuing carrying this item due to supplier issues. Skip or Jason should be the ones to set the recrd straight on that, tho.
Regards,
Regards,
08-19-2005, 05:37 PM
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You guys need to chill out, I come on here to read and learn as much as I can, and there are always grown men acting like people my age kussing and what not, show some class. I do appreciate all the help I have gotten on this board, but come on if you didn't buy the lenses, don't worry about it