HELP! 86 951 EscortCar-Found one of three chips? need an expert!
05-16-2004, 12:07 PM
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I wish I could be in his shoes. Score any 951 especially THIS one for $2000.00 and I would be WAY happy and all ya'all would never hear the end of it from me. Once ya get her up and running let us know if your going to run her anyplace like Robling Roads (sp?) and I will take the trip down to see it.
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05-16-2004, 01:04 PM
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Re: Re: HELP! 86 951 EscortCar-Found one of three chips? need an expert!
Originally posted by Koda
Sorry but I'm really tired of you trying to pull this off as an actual Escort car...it's really just a chop shop job.
Oh yeah and it's spelled Andial not Andile
Sorry but I'm really tired of you trying to pull this off as an actual Escort car...it's really just a chop shop job.
Oh yeah and it's spelled Andial not Andile
05-16-2004, 02:04 PM
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Re: Re: Re: HELP! 86 951 EscortCar-Found one of three chips? need an expert!
Originally posted by ELLSSUU
WOW! That's pretty harsh. Crap, if I found a $2,000 951 with that history then I'd post it everyday along with a nay nay nee nay nah.
WOW! That's pretty harsh. Crap, if I found a $2,000 951 with that history then I'd post it everyday along with a nay nay nee nay nah.
The cool thing is that Sean (Porschehead) DOESN'T post a nanny-nanny boo-boo thread every day; even though he'd be justified in doing so. He even acts like a good guy when flaming little trolls try to step on his cloud. I was sharing this story with a hot-rodder friend last night, and while he doesn't "get" my obsession with 944's, he sure as Hell appreciated a great under-the-tarp-in-a-backyard story.
05-16-2004, 11:11 PM
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So, what exactly is the timeline you have planned to get this car back into proper form?
What sort of work needs to be done still? What progress have you made? I have access to a proper complete set of Rothmans decals for that car. Let me know if you are interested (they aren't cheap, though................)
Take care,
Jeremy
What sort of work needs to be done still? What progress have you made? I have access to a proper complete set of Rothmans decals for that car. Let me know if you are interested (they aren't cheap, though................)
Take care,
Jeremy
05-17-2004, 10:49 AM
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Responses from Porschehead.
Ref. TAYLORSEA4: Not much of an update to report, car still in storage
awaiting the economy and my paycheck to improve.
Yes, still going to do the full Rothmans livery & #14.
Ref. GEORGEK : Thanks for the 911RSR history lesson, I thought it was
not uncommon for racing porsches to be retubbed.
Ref. IPSC & TIFOSIMAN:
Probably a year or two before compleated...depending
on cash flow.
What do you guys think?
In the mean time before the cars restoration
gets into full swing I would consider putting it,
( the Escort 951) on a trailer and taking it to
some P.C.A. or racing events. It could be
diplayed in (nasty) "as found" condition with
a good bit of documentation and old race
photos. I would state that the car was crashed
and retubbed, (some people seam to have an
issue with that).
People might enjoy crawling around on it and
seeing things like the 8" & 9" X16" Fuchs,
massive adjustable sway bar (see photo),
Adjustable Konis with, Adj. spring plates and
500# springs...Etc.
I'm not sure of the reaction as many in the
Porsche crowd only want to see perfect,
shiney, original cars?
Thanks, Porschehead
Ref. TAYLORSEA4: Not much of an update to report, car still in storage
awaiting the economy and my paycheck to improve.
Yes, still going to do the full Rothmans livery & #14.
Ref. GEORGEK : Thanks for the 911RSR history lesson, I thought it was
not uncommon for racing porsches to be retubbed.
Ref. IPSC & TIFOSIMAN:
Probably a year or two before compleated...depending
on cash flow.
What do you guys think?
In the mean time before the cars restoration
gets into full swing I would consider putting it,
( the Escort 951) on a trailer and taking it to
some P.C.A. or racing events. It could be
diplayed in (nasty) "as found" condition with
a good bit of documentation and old race
photos. I would state that the car was crashed
and retubbed, (some people seam to have an
issue with that).
People might enjoy crawling around on it and
seeing things like the 8" & 9" X16" Fuchs,
massive adjustable sway bar (see photo),
Adjustable Konis with, Adj. spring plates and
500# springs...Etc.
I'm not sure of the reaction as many in the
Porsche crowd only want to see perfect,
shiney, original cars?
Thanks, Porschehead
Last edited by porschehead; 05-17-2004 at 05:11 PM.
05-17-2004, 01:37 PM
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One thing you *could* do for us is borrow a dig camera and shoot a series of good pics of the car, to give a better appreciation of the special details. I would kil for a pair of all manual sportseats like you have.
Re: the re-tub, is the new shell reinforced as the first one?
Re: the re-tub, is the new shell reinforced as the first one?
05-17-2004, 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by GeorgeK
Of the 40 or so built 1974 RSRs, only 4 or 5 did *not* get bent, and about half of them are on new shells. Add to that the fact that almost every car has had a few engine changes in its life, plus more mods than a riced out Honda, and you start to wonder why we admire them as original.
Porschehead's car has a seemingly verifiable, continuous history, with famous drivers/owners, and is the most bang for the buck in regard to factory race cars.
To me it is the real deal, not an overpriced T shell, with the 4th engine, a modern seat, and some electronic engine management.
Have fun with it, and do not let people rain on your parade.
Of the 40 or so built 1974 RSRs, only 4 or 5 did *not* get bent, and about half of them are on new shells. Add to that the fact that almost every car has had a few engine changes in its life, plus more mods than a riced out Honda, and you start to wonder why we admire them as original.
Porschehead's car has a seemingly verifiable, continuous history, with famous drivers/owners, and is the most bang for the buck in regard to factory race cars.
To me it is the real deal, not an overpriced T shell, with the 4th engine, a modern seat, and some electronic engine management.
Have fun with it, and do not let people rain on your parade.
Thanks George.
People seem to have different opinions about a retubbed( reshelled ) car.
If it had not been rebuilt it would no longer exist. I'd hate to think
of the probably hundreds of much more significant Porsche race cars
that would not be around today without the reshelling process.
One of my documents posted below. Bill of sale from Leroy Cannon Porsche.
After they bought it from Porsche Motorsport and ran it at 24 Hr. Mid Ohio, they sold it as a street car....."All Previouse use was as a race car".
( Not sure if I posted this before? If so sorry)
As far as my poor quality photos.......Your right, they were taken in poor lighting conditions with an El-Cheapo Digital camera a few days after I got the car home. Will try to get some better ones sometime.
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05-17-2004, 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Danno
The 250bhp car ran at about 12psi boost and the 290bhp ran 17psi. I haven't been able to locate a 300bhp car or chip to map yet. So one of yours might be this last missing link.
The 250bhp car ran at about 12psi boost and the 290bhp ran 17psi. I haven't been able to locate a 300bhp car or chip to map yet. So one of yours might be this last missing link.
According to race results it dropped out of the race on
lap 216 with a blown head gasket.
05-17-2004, 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by TaylorSea4
Porschehead, I'm still STOKED for you, man! I was just doing a search today to oogle the old race pics of YOUR car, only to see you getting flamed by some lame-*** with 30 posts sounding like he knows more than he does.
****, can't the guy be pumped about FINDING and buying Al F**king Holbert's old cup car? I recall when you found the gem, Porschehead (your name escapes me- get your kids to help you with your signature, man!! ).
So Koda, the next time you spout off at the mouth and try to **** on someone's parade, be REAL sure you know what you're talking about least you look like a buzzkilling troll. Check that; a buzzkilling troll who doesn't have a clue!
Now that that's done, what's the story on the restoration, man? You still gonna go with the Rothman's livery? Sorry to pester you, but I intentionally searched to find an update on that oh-so-cool piece of history. Laters...
Porschehead, I'm still STOKED for you, man! I was just doing a search today to oogle the old race pics of YOUR car, only to see you getting flamed by some lame-*** with 30 posts sounding like he knows more than he does.
****, can't the guy be pumped about FINDING and buying Al F**king Holbert's old cup car? I recall when you found the gem, Porschehead (your name escapes me- get your kids to help you with your signature, man!!
).So Koda, the next time you spout off at the mouth and try to **** on someone's parade, be REAL sure you know what you're talking about least you look like a buzzkilling troll. Check that; a buzzkilling troll who doesn't have a clue!
Now that that's done, what's the story on the restoration, man? You still gonna go with the Rothman's livery? Sorry to pester you, but I intentionally searched to find an update on that oh-so-cool piece of history. Laters...
05-18-2004, 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Koda
Wow, thats funny, I think you have some anger issues! I think he already admitted he did not find alholberts actual car, but a car that was rebuilt using parts and vin#'s from Al Holberts car.
Wow, thats funny, I think you have some anger issues! I think he already admitted he did not find alholberts actual car, but a car that was rebuilt using parts and vin#'s from Al Holberts car.
05-18-2004, 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Dan87951
I love hearing about this car. Keep it coming!
I love hearing about this car. Keep it coming!
info. Go to: www.944central.com
Click on Sean's 951.