Buying a 928 : What should i look for
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Hi all
Im new to the forum and embarking on getting a 928 S4. Already have a 911 997 2S and love it but looking to add a thumping v8 to the fleet.
When viewing a car..
1. What issues/things should i be looking for
2. What upgrades are considered attractive and ones that arent.
3. What issue is a deal breaker and i should effectively walk away
Really would appreciate the forumers feedback as im viewing a couple on the weekend.
Im new to the forum and embarking on getting a 928 S4. Already have a 911 997 2S and love it but looking to add a thumping v8 to the fleet.
When viewing a car..
1. What issues/things should i be looking for
2. What upgrades are considered attractive and ones that arent.
3. What issue is a deal breaker and i should effectively walk away
Really would appreciate the forumers feedback as im viewing a couple on the weekend.
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Read every single post in this thread before buying a 928 and you will save yourself countless time and money.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...questions.html
In terms of monetary worth the later years GTS 5 speed models (1993-1995 in the U.S. 1992-1995 RoW) are the most desired and therefore most expensive. Of course low miles and strong maintenance history result in premium price.
It is probably better to say what your budget is. From there we can provide lots of advice. Perhaps guide you towards an enthusiast owned and well maintained example.
I repeat. Read the New Visitor thread in its entirety.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...questions.html
In terms of monetary worth the later years GTS 5 speed models (1993-1995 in the U.S. 1992-1995 RoW) are the most desired and therefore most expensive. Of course low miles and strong maintenance history result in premium price.
It is probably better to say what your budget is. From there we can provide lots of advice. Perhaps guide you towards an enthusiast owned and well maintained example.
I repeat. Read the New Visitor thread in its entirety.
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Just to throw this in: Things are going to need to be fixed on a Shark, but you can do it!
There is enough collected knowledge on this forum to assemble a 928 from its component parts better than the factory did it. Pretty much everything a 928 owner can run into has been documented here. If not, they'll help figure it out.
All you need is a decent set of tools and the ability to more-or-less follow instructions.
There is enough collected knowledge on this forum to assemble a 928 from its component parts better than the factory did it. Pretty much everything a 928 owner can run into has been documented here. If not, they'll help figure it out.
All you need is a decent set of tools and the ability to more-or-less follow instructions.
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Apart from all the collective knowledge here, there is also a book by David Hemmings from the UK, which covers a lot of details you want to look for when evaluating used 928s. May be worth checking-out... Best of luck!
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That depends on if you're going for restoration or for preservation. If you're just driving it, then I don't think it's particularly expensive to keep on the road. If you want to restore it, well, that's another story. I redid my dash and pod for about $25 with a can of Plasti-Dip and a texture roller. It's not Rob Budd or Paul Champagne, but it hides the cracks and gets down the road! ![burnout](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/burnout.gif)
I can't believe how much power they're getting out of V6 motors now. I had 83 and 87 GT Mustangs and they were fast for the day, but they only had 225-ish hp. I had an 89 SHO Taurus and that was the hot V6 of the day and it also turned out 225 horsepower.
Yeah, compared to today's motors, stock Shark is significantly under powered!
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... I just put 1,400 miles on a nearly new 2016 Mustang GT 6 speed....435 HP and 6 speed manual, it thumped pretty good for a $30,000 car with a warranty
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Yeah, compared to today's motors, stock Shark is significantly under powered!
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I think you should buy on the basis of the superficials - paint, interior, upholstery, etc. is expensive and largely beyond DIY abilities. The mechanical stuff is within range of most owners given the help you can get here or at Dwayne's Garage. There is just one big show-stopper, I believe: thrust bearing failure (search for it). A PPI may not check that, but will help you decide what to offer for a car.
Finding someone qualified to do a real pre-purchase inspection may be difficult. Just you looking underneath with the car on a lift can help you find "deductions", such as ripped CV boots. You can peer up at the timing belt, too, although you must also check service records to make the change/don't change decision.
In any case, make sure you love the car. It's not the sort of car you can own casually. We will expect you to make it a better car during your stewardship! But that can be very rewarding. My newer Porsche is a perfect car, but I prefer my 928.
Finding someone qualified to do a real pre-purchase inspection may be difficult. Just you looking underneath with the car on a lift can help you find "deductions", such as ripped CV boots. You can peer up at the timing belt, too, although you must also check service records to make the change/don't change decision.
In any case, make sure you love the car. It's not the sort of car you can own casually. We will expect you to make it a better car during your stewardship! But that can be very rewarding. My newer Porsche is a perfect car, but I prefer my 928.
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Good paint and interior. 5 spd (if you like to stir your own). OB, S4, GT or GTS. Colors that aren't Red, Black white or silver (Yes I own a red one).
Get a PPI from somebody who knows 928's. I can't stress this one enough.
Whatever you pay, budget another 13k in repairs to get it up to snuff.
New gas and power steering lines. TB and waterpump. Check for TBF if you are going automatic.
Good luck!
Get a PPI from somebody who knows 928's. I can't stress this one enough.
Whatever you pay, budget another 13k in repairs to get it up to snuff.
New gas and power steering lines. TB and waterpump. Check for TBF if you are going automatic.
Good luck!
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+1 Apply what Shawn said about cost of ownership if doing your own work....to a car like Curt describes.
I think you should buy on the basis of the superficials - paint, interior, upholstery, etc. is expensive and largely beyond DIY abilities. The mechanical stuff is within range of most owners given the help you can get here or at Dwayne's Garage. There is just one big show-stopper, I believe: thrust bearing failure (search for it). A PPI may not check that, but will help you decide what to offer for a car.
Finding someone qualified to do a real pre-purchase inspection may be difficult. Just you looking underneath with the car on a lift can help you find "deductions", such as ripped CV boots. You can peer up at the timing belt, too, although you must also check service records to make the change/don't change decision.
In any case, make sure you love the car. It's not the sort of car you can own casually. We will expect you to make it a better car during your stewardship! But that can be very rewarding. My newer Porsche is a perfect car, but I prefer my 928.
Finding someone qualified to do a real pre-purchase inspection may be difficult. Just you looking underneath with the car on a lift can help you find "deductions", such as ripped CV boots. You can peer up at the timing belt, too, although you must also check service records to make the change/don't change decision.
In any case, make sure you love the car. It's not the sort of car you can own casually. We will expect you to make it a better car during your stewardship! But that can be very rewarding. My newer Porsche is a perfect car, but I prefer my 928.
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Take your time and look at as many as you can and when you can't stand it anymore, buy the best you can afford that has a good history. I'm not overlooking the Old Babes (OBs), but I assume you are looking at 87-95. There are subtle differences in the ride and what the hp provides to the heavier GTS. You can put S3 cams in it and Presto! you have a GT, which has more low end, less high end. Almost endless upgrades to any of them, limited only by $$, or should I say $$$$.
No one has ever asked about staying away from a color. Red does fade over time more than others is all I could say to that.
Where are you located; how easy is it for you to travel to buy?
Fuel lines and other rubber should be replace if they haven't already.
These are infrequent examples, but the end play on any automatic should be checked, search is your friend.
There is a separate tech forum and somewhere there is a buyer's guide, but I would recommend PPI instead.
Good luck, ask away.
No one has ever asked about staying away from a color. Red does fade over time more than others is all I could say to that.
Where are you located; how easy is it for you to travel to buy?
Fuel lines and other rubber should be replace if they haven't already.
These are infrequent examples, but the end play on any automatic should be checked, search is your friend.
There is a separate tech forum and somewhere there is a buyer's guide, but I would recommend PPI instead.
Good luck, ask away.