Mikebte

Early cars very by year, 80 US vs 80 Euro, IMO the euro would be better.

Check out the Rennlist classifieds as well.

https://rennlist.com/forums/marketplace/cars/search/

997TTEQNY

Thanks will do

some members have already reached out with support..

GT6ixer

The seller is correct in that the Euro cars make more HP (310 vs 288) than the US variants in 1985. I don't own a Euro but I think there are a few engine specific parts, like cam shafts, that if needed to be replaced are harder to come by. Someone here will correct me. These motors are also higher compression than the US 4.7L and therefore are interference motors, so ask the seller when the TB/WP was last replaced. Ideally this would have been done within the last 6 years. Other than that the rest of the car is essentially identical(save for a few oddities) to US spec so part availability will be the same.

Euro cars tend to bring a little more of a premium in the US due to rarity and the bump in power. This one looks to be in very good condition. Especially the seats and dash. And if it is how the seller describes, no electrical issues, working AC, etc, it would be a very nice entry into the 928 world. As for price, starting bid is at $20K. For condition and mileage and being a 5-speed, I'd say this one's market would be somewhere between $18-$25K. Definitely get a PPI done if you are serious about buying this. Car is in SC. I'm not sure who near there could do it, but someone on RL should know. Just do a search or make a separate post for a PPI near Conway.

BRB-83-911SC

In my (biased) opinion, the Euro "S" cars are very desirable. Pre-84 Euro S cars had 300 HP CIS 4.7L 16 valve motors, while 84-86 Euros had 310 HP LH 4.7L 16 valve motors with twin ignition systems. And yes, all 4.7L Euros should be treated as interference, even if not officially stated as such. In 85, the 5-speed syncros changed to a more robust (arguably) Borg Warner design that some find to be smoother shifting. Search here for lots of discussions on the mid year Euros. Also, go to 928 Specialists website, 928 Tips/Links, then Tech/Specs for details on year/model differences.

The 85 Euro in the ad looks very nice. Beware that when federalized, the speedometer was replaced to an MPH version, so total mileage is unknown, unless a solid history of the car is provided. Many of these in this time frame were imported as new due to the performance advantages and dollar value, but some were imported later in life, so a new speedometer would zero out any accumulated miles. Again, history/documentation would be important to me. Something odd in the instrument cluster - the warning lights on the left are in English, and on the right gauge are in German. I suspect that the left gauge was replaced at some time. Mine are all in German.

I think this car is worth a serious look. If I didn't already have one, I'd be checking it out.

worf928

.... confirm that the motor in the car is actually a Euro S motor by requesting a picture of the part of the block with the engine code stamped on it. (Post the picture here; we'll be able to tell you.) Since, as Nate points out, the Euro S motors are interference motors a previous timing belt 'situation' may have resulted in a motor swap to a low-compression US motor rather than a costly rebuild. This isn't common but has been known to happen. Since the EuroS 928s are more desirable due to the extra power and command a premium, only pay a premium if it is in fact a complete Euro S 928.

The same is true for 928 GTs.

997TTEQNY

Thank you everyone for all of this invaluable info.

I've asked for a picture of the engine code stamp.

BRB-83-911SC

This is where it is located, and what it should look like. Should be M28/21.

hlee96

997TTEQNY

Thanks for the info. I can see from your stable that you are an authority on these cars. I replied to your PM, please check when you get the chance. Thank you.

Mikebte

I completely missed the note from the Seller, my bad.

drscottsmith

Related to the SC eBay car...

Sounds like Hoi has invaluable experience with this particular car and seller (Definitely an authority as you said!). I am in SC but on the opposite end of the state. Hopefully some of the others in the area will see this and chime in to assist.

Conway is close to Myrtle Beach (~15 miles or so). I would imagine with the clientele in that area there is probably a reputable indy somewhere close that could do a PPI.

Good luck

997TTEQNY

heres another one

hideous rear wing

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Porsch...QAAOSwimZbiEZH

Mikebte

I was just looking at this on Auto Trader. Seller has many 928's up for sale. Early OB.

I would suggest you keep an eye on BAT. I can not believe the deals you can get at times. But your patience will be tested.

997TTEQNY

Hoi.. seller contacted me back with same story. TB is 5 years old.

Records are boxed up.. etc.

When possible, please send me pics to my email of your copper car @ prohairsvc@aol.com

Thanks!

Kurt

997TTEQNY

Confirmed that motor is an euro S

Stamp is identical to the one above

M28/21

82F00477