brake line flaring
03-07-2016, 04:27 PM
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brake line flaring
I had a new brake line made for the rear right wheel, by a Porsche workshop. To my untrained eye, the flaring looked ok (double flaring). Now I know the standard type of flaring for the Porsche brake lines is DIN convex or "bubble"flaring or F-type flaring. See picture. The Porsche shop actually screwed up big time because the double flaring will not sit properly in the connector to the flex line. I wonder how many cars run around with incorrect flaring on the brake lines?
Now I'll have to re-flare the brake lines already installed in the car. I hate taking the brake line out again. There are several tools available for this job. Can somebody recommend me a tool that can do the job on the car?
Now I'll have to re-flare the brake lines already installed in the car. I hate taking the brake line out again. There are several tools available for this job. Can somebody recommend me a tool that can do the job on the car?
03-07-2016, 06:58 PM
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Isn't the other end of the line going to be incorrect, also?
03-07-2016, 08:54 PM
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What Yardpro said - readily available at the local auto parts store in multiple lengths and cheap.
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission?
George Layton March 2014928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
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I've received parts from reputable suppliers, none on here, for standard items with the wrong flare, given the volume these places do I wouldn't want to guess as the number, but a lot would come to mind. Bought the tool at Princess Auto, Canadian Harbor freight, never looked back.
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03-08-2016, 12:38 AM
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03-08-2016, 06:19 AM
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many euros use bubble flair.
i made some new lines for my wifes old jag. you can even get the tools for free from the loan a tool at advance etc...
really easy to use.
i realize the safety issue with brakes, but they are so easy to make lines for.....
i made some new lines for my wifes old jag. you can even get the tools for free from the loan a tool at advance etc...
really easy to use.
i realize the safety issue with brakes, but they are so easy to make lines for.....
03-08-2016, 10:02 AM
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Now I'll have to re-flare the brake lines already installed in the car. I hate taking the brake line out again. There are several tools available for this job. Can somebody recommend me a tool that can do the job on the car?[/QUOTE]
If you are going to use the lines presently on the car buy some tubing and practice until you can create the correct flare before going to the car lines. The lines on the car will be getting shorter every time you have to redo the flare. If you replace the line, remove it and use plumbers solder, alongside, to figure out the length of the line. Then install the threaded fittings the correct way, then flare the ends.
Go here for the best service and info
http://store.fedhillusa.com/contact-us.aspx
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If you are going to use the lines presently on the car buy some tubing and practice until you can create the correct flare before going to the car lines. The lines on the car will be getting shorter every time you have to redo the flare. If you replace the line, remove it and use plumbers solder, alongside, to figure out the length of the line. Then install the threaded fittings the correct way, then flare the ends.
Go here for the best service and info
http://store.fedhillusa.com/contact-us.aspx
Wayne
04-23-2016, 02:07 PM
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Cohline brakelines
Remember I got the long brake line (right rear wheel) made at a local Porsche Shop? They made one out of copper brake line and out an SAE double flare on it. I noticed the difference with the other side when I was hooking up the flex lines.
I started looking for a good tool to redo the flaring myself. I got a real good tool and started practicing on the old brake line. I found out I still couldn't make the proper DIN flaring as in the picture. Then I visited the "Techno Classica" in Germany (Essen). As always, an english guy is there with brake line kits (most of them copper) and brake line parts. He told me for German cars with DIN flaring the copper tubing is not allowed according to TUV regulations.The brake lines must be steel. Cars with copper brake line will not pass the anual TUV test. In short, he said he couldn't help me. But he remenbered having a Cohline brake line kit lying around (BMW set). I could buy half the set. In total, the length of the lines I bought was a bit too long so I had to reroute the lines a bit differently. I bought half the set for EUR 20.
Later that day, while still at the "Techno Classica" I spoke to a fellow dutch guy who had a 911 restoration shop there. He told me the Cohline for Porsche are cheap (EUR 35) and readily available.
A couple of days later he sent me an email explaining that the Cohline brakeline set for the 911 costs EUR 35 but for the 928 there is no such set. So I was happy with half the BMW set, which is in the car now. It was quirte a struggle to get the brake line past the gearbox, but working from the rear wheel to the front it was doable.
In the pictures:
Flaring new brake line and old brake line
Flaring wrong copper line with correct Cohline
Brakelines installed at the master cylinder
I started looking for a good tool to redo the flaring myself. I got a real good tool and started practicing on the old brake line. I found out I still couldn't make the proper DIN flaring as in the picture. Then I visited the "Techno Classica" in Germany (Essen). As always, an english guy is there with brake line kits (most of them copper) and brake line parts. He told me for German cars with DIN flaring the copper tubing is not allowed according to TUV regulations.The brake lines must be steel. Cars with copper brake line will not pass the anual TUV test. In short, he said he couldn't help me. But he remenbered having a Cohline brake line kit lying around (BMW set). I could buy half the set. In total, the length of the lines I bought was a bit too long so I had to reroute the lines a bit differently. I bought half the set for EUR 20.
Later that day, while still at the "Techno Classica" I spoke to a fellow dutch guy who had a 911 restoration shop there. He told me the Cohline for Porsche are cheap (EUR 35) and readily available.
A couple of days later he sent me an email explaining that the Cohline brakeline set for the 911 costs EUR 35 but for the 928 there is no such set. So I was happy with half the BMW set, which is in the car now. It was quirte a struggle to get the brake line past the gearbox, but working from the rear wheel to the front it was doable.
In the pictures:
Flaring new brake line and old brake line
Flaring wrong copper line with correct Cohline
Brakelines installed at the master cylinder