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Turbo Todd shaving more weight off the nose: Oil pan and shocks

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Old 03-06-2016 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
I'm excited about the power steering. If this works like we are hoping I'll convert my 79 and use the same pump on my replica cobra.


I'll relay this information to him as another area to look at, thanks!
It can work. Tarek converted his black wide widebody to a rear mounted electric power steering pump many years ago. It works just fine. He moved it for the same reason, to move some weight to the rear and away from the front.
Old 03-06-2016 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Has any vendor ever offered a way to convert our shocks to a standard spring like Todd did here? He's not interested in making such parts for sale, but I think some vendor should.

Couldn't we just get them scanned for CNC work?
Old 03-06-2016 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabio421
It can work. Tarek converted his black wide widebody to a rear mounted electric power steering pump many years ago. It works just fine. He moved it for the same reason, to move some weight to the rear and away from the front.
I should have worded that differently. I know it will work, the question is will Todd be happy with it. He's been debating this for many years and researching various pumps. He went with the TRW unit for specific reason on how it works and is controlled.

He doesn't plan on using any speed inputs for the pump and based on his research the TRW unit has advantages over others when simply being turned on.

I'm sure it will be fine.

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Couldn't we just get them scanned for CNC work?
I suggested that to Todd, make a set and offer them for anyone to copy. He would prefer not to be involved in any way with suspension components that are not going on his car.
Old 03-06-2016 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
I totally forgot about the Mini Cooper pump.

I need to check the electronics on that one.
http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/r...4973#msg-44973
Old 03-06-2016 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
I should have worded that differently. I know it will work, the question is will Todd be happy with it. He's been debating this for many years and researching various pumps. He went with the TRW unit for specific reason on how it works and is controlled.

He doesn't plan on using any speed inputs for the pump and based on his research the TRW unit has advantages over others when simply being turned on.

I'm sure it will be fine.


I suggested that to Todd, make a set and offer them for anyone to copy. He would prefer not to be involved in any way with suspension components that are not going on his car.
He already is...you shared the photos.

Nobody asked him to make em..but..Ill never understand the POV, but..I wont argue it further.
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why not use the koni double adjustable? they are even lighter and use the small diameter springs... I think mine were about 8 lbs each. they bolt to the stock purches... nice set up and easy to install.
Old 03-07-2016 | 03:39 PM
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If Todd doesn't have a pump picked out yet, tell him to look at the Mercedes A-Type W168 pump. They are self contained, and very easy to plumb/wire. They have a bunch of part numbers, but one of the more recent ones is 1684660601.
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Can you get a W168 pump in the US?

964 w/EPS - https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...l#post10485574
Old 03-07-2016 | 11:05 PM
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FWIW, I have installed the MBZ A series electric power steering pump and it was an easy conversion.

From the driver's seat perspective, the change in the power steering takes a little getting used to as there must be demand for assist before the pump turns on. The translate to a detectable delay before you have assist. In terms of driver's experience, you cannot "one finger" the steering wheel when parallel parking. On the plus side, the road feel while cruising with only small steering inputs is much improved.

The MBZ pumps are getting a little harder to get within the US as many of the suppliers are no longer stocking "euro only" parts.

$0.02... YMMV
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Ebay is your friend on this one. You can easily order that way. I have one here on the shelf too if someone needed one to play with for a bit.

Its super simple bracket design, and about the size of the factory reservoir, just a bit longer. As Jim says, they are completely self contained, and work by monitoring internal pressure differential to apply the boost. Its nice, as they only run when the wheel is turned enough to trigger a delta in pressure large enough for the internal logic. At full tilt, they only pull around 20A, so you can easily power directly from the ABS area terminal.

I have tried the MR2 setup (have one of those if someone wants it), and looked into many others, and I can say without a doubt, the W168 is the easiest pump to work with out there.
Old 03-10-2016 | 07:24 PM
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The TRW pump arrived, Todd picked it up this morning. I suspect knowing him it will be fully installed and working by midnight.

Originally Posted by mark kibort
why not use the koni double adjustable?
Because this is what he already had on the shelf.

Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Ill never understand the POV
It's called liability.



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