Jersey_Sam

Ok got it. Something is wrong with the engine. Im not gonna waste my time and fool around with it.
I will buy a short block, and transfer everything from my engine, and bolt it on. Is that how it works?

I can get some help if the local folks offer it. pizzas and refreshments will be offered.
Would love to make it to Hershey this year with my 928 for a change, instead of my 912.

Cheers,

Sam

James Bailey

Still makes sense to measure the endplay. ..just to be sure.

Jersey_Sam

ok, will get underneath it tomorrow with a pry bar and the gauge and will report back. I also will remove the oil filer, and do the black cardboard trick, in search for metal shavings.

Thanks again James for all your help and for everyone else.
Much appreciated.

Sam

hlee96

Hi Sam, please tell me that you make room in that garage for the beautiful 912! Good luck with the crank end play.

Jersey_Sam

that was over at the in-laws back in the summer. Its now in storage, all winter. thanks hoi.
Talk to you soon.

Sam

Mrmerlin

if the engine is full of metal then it would be best to buy a complete used motor and drop it in.

NOTE the lifters and any other bearing surfaces will be damaged by all of the metal that has circulated

Jersey_Sam

thank you Stan. I think that is what im leaning towards. quick solution to get back on the road.

I saw 928 international sell complete engines. Maybe ill call them up tomorrow and try to find a plug and play.

Sam

Chris Lockhart

Definitely your best bang for the buck. Good luck and welcome.

zekgb

There have been very few documented TBF cases with S3's, will be interesting to see if this is actually what's going on with your car.

skpyle

Subscribed.

Seth K. Pyle

docmirror

Whoa there hoss. Lets do some measuring and diagnosis before getting out the check book.

A) Measure your crank end play with a pry bar and a dial indicator.
B) Drain the oil and inspect for silver flecks.
C) Cut open the filter and inspect for silver flecks.
D) Disconnect the six bolts holding the flex plate to the flywheel, and push the flex plate and yoke rearward. Then, crank engine(don't start it without oil!). Also spin the flex plate by hand. Figure out which one is binding.

We don't even know where the binding is yet. Once you get there, we can look at other options.

Jersey_Sam

Ok thanks for the kind words and for the advice all.

Here is what i did:

Measured end play at the crank with a dial indicator (didnt do it the best way, because i could not secure the dial to the casing/chassis). Anyway, there was hardly any play, just a hair.

Pulled the dipstick out and layed it on a black laminate sheet, and looked at it under the sun. I think i saw some small particles (Aghhh). The oil looked like metallic black paint.

So finally, i went back underneath and took a hard look at the shaft, and thought that a pinch bolt should be inserted where the yellow arrow is. So I went to the basement, got a long bolt and a nut, and installed it where the missing pinch bolt was.

I then hooked up a battery and a jumper, and Vrooom, the car fired up and idled. I then shut it off after 30 seconds because i know the gas is old and stale and i didnt wanna clog the injectors.

I will drain the fuel tank this weekend and the oil, and put fresh oil in there.
I will also purchase a mounting kit for the dial gauge and pry again back and forth. I doubt im gonna have that much play.

So finally, the car fired!!! couldnt belive it. I had just called 928 international and was looking at buying a complete running engine from them.

Why didnt i think of installing a pinch bolt earlier??? oh well, i learned something today, that without a pinch bolt, 928's dont start!!! I guess the previous owner's mechanic must have removed it. The owner couldn't figure out why it was not starting. I guess all he had to do is drop the bellhousing cover and insert a pinch bolt to get if fired?

Lessons 1 out of the way.

Sam

docmirror

OK, well - I'm done helping.

Wait for June I guess. It'll be for sale with boxes of parts in the back.

Jersey_Sam

thanks Docmirror.

docmirror

Thanks not needed or requested.


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