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Old 11-30-2015, 11:57 PM
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Guys, After hours of struggle I've finally gotten the bottom / outside window seals installed into the trim and doors. The seals were OEM from Porsche and were TIGHT as a... well, you know... I used half a tube of KY Jelly to lube up the surfaces prior to install - soapy water was not doing the trick and dried to rapidly.

Now I need to install the upper / outer window seals and haven't a clue where to start. They appear to have the same bead that inserts into the window trim (same as the bottom seal) but don't know the procedure or if any other fasteners are supposed to keep them in place - are there any clips, screws or fasteners I'm unaware of...?? (we did not disassemble the car before paint and are piecing it together from a pile of fasteners, screws, bolts, etc). Yeah, it's a lot of fun... I'm hoping the upper seals aren't nearly as tough as the bottoms turned out to be...

Anyway, any information, hints, tips, recommendations, directions, threads, links, etc, on how to install them would be greatly appreciated. I'm really hoping Dewayne has a step by step pictorial on the procedure But that would be just way too easy...

Thanks, Joel
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I have had good results with putting a thin cord think clothesline around the window seal channel then put the lower into the rail then slowly pull the rope while someone on the outside pushes the window into place.
NOTE I suggest to use a liberal amount of Dow Corning 111 on the metal part of the seal channel especially along the lower edge this will prevent water from corroding the chassis
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
I have had good results with putting a thin cord think clothesline around the window seal channel then put the lower into the rail then slowly pull the rope while someone on the outside pushes the window into place.
NOTE I suggest to use a liberal amount of Dow Corning 111 on the metal part of the seal channel especially along the lower edge this will prevent water from corroding the chassis
Thanks, but wrong windows Sorry if I wasn't clear... You're referring to the rear quarter windows - and, yes that technique worked very well. What I'm inquiring about is how to install the weather stip / felt seal on the DOOR windows. Specifically, the seal / felt in the upper part of the window/door. Sorry for any confusion my crappy description caused.

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Maybe pictures.....
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I did mine a bit earlier this year, and it was a bit of a pain.

I can't find my post where I described my process, as once I found a good method it went pretty quickly, but I think:
- I started at the rear part of the door, near the lock.
- I slowly worked my way up, getting the seal to clip onto the frame.
- As I went along, I used velcro strips wrapped around the felt to the outer window frame to keep it attached.
- I repeated until I got to the end. I had a bit of slack, so I slowly squished the trim back towards the lock to give me the extra room I needed.

The key for me was the velcro strips. I used them abundantly, and they kept the thing in place while I worked my way around. Prior to using them, I found the strip would pop out at the most inopportune times.
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Good idea with the velcro. The popping out was a PITA.
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They've come in very handy in a number of projects.

Here's a
link to the ones I got link to the ones I got
....one of the best $5 I've spent while working on the car.
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Great tip Ryan. I have to do this job on my passenger side window. I did the driver's side about 5 years ago, and while an initial PIA, it wasn't too bad once I got it started, but the Velcro trick will make it better.
Joel, there are some old threads about this out there. I'll need to find them when I get to this winter project (I already bought the strip from Roger). I may try Stan's string tip too, even though it is for the door window. Can't hurt to try!
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Originally Posted by linderpat
Great tip Ryan. I have to do this job on my passenger side window. I did the driver's side about 5 years ago, and while an initial PIA, it wasn't too bad once I got it started, but the Velcro trick will make it better.
Joel, there are some old threads about this out there. I'll need to find them when I get to this winter project (I already bought the strip from Roger). I may try Stan's string tip too, even though it is for the door window. Can't hurt to try!
I just hope the bead isn't as tough to apply as the bead on the lower weather strip / felt piece... It was OEM from Porsche and a BEAR to install... I'll give it a go on the top weather strip/felt piece with the velcro strips and report back.

BTW, Stan's trick only works on the rear quarter windows because the weather stripping is already applied to the trim / window. It basically helps you get it all in the window frame and once in (with someone else pushing from the outside) you pull the string out and it brings the inside lip of the weather stripping with it... Very cool and pretty easy.
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Petroleum jelly or MolyKote 111 (aka Dow Corning 111) in a thin coat on the rubber spline portion of the piece will ease installation tremendously. The velcro will be handy to keep the part from popping out once a portion is installed. This has the added benefit of making the piece easy to slide back and forth to get it positioned correctly.

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Any thoughts on the P-80 products that are specific for this purpose?
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Originally Posted by worf928
Any thoughts on the P-80 products that are specific for this purpose?
I don't know... didn't know it even existed I ended up using KY lube (yes, the personal lubricant) and it didn't dry out like the soapy water did. But, once dry it's not slippery either (water based). We first used it while installing torque tube Super Bearings - worked like a charm.
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Originally Posted by ltoolio
I did mine a bit earlier this year, and it was a bit of a pain.

I can't find my post where I described my process, as once I found a good method it went pretty quickly, but I think:
- I started at the rear part of the door, near the lock.
- I slowly worked my way up, getting the seal to clip onto the frame.
- As I went along, I used velcro strips wrapped around the felt to the outer window frame to keep it attached.
- I repeated until I got to the end. I had a bit of slack, so I slowly squished the trim back towards the lock to give me the extra room I needed.

The key for me was the velcro strips. I used them abundantly, and they kept the thing in place while I worked my way around. Prior to using them, I found the strip would pop out at the most inopportune times.
So you strung it up with Velcro to hold it in place while you inserted the seal's rubber bead into the trim molding... Correct??


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