Hi Peter,

I will add you to the list with pleasure. It will be great to see one of John Kuhn's modified cars with us.!!

Looking forward to it!

Best Regards

 

Dear Sean,

Maybe we can get you a co-driver spot and you will only have to do the travel expenses..? That way you still get to participate and also drive.

Autobahn driving is tiring, so someone may want to share...!

 

May I suggest that you come in 2017, for the 40th anniversary party?

Don't believe your engine will be the limiting factor on the Autobahn. If you are not used to his kind of speed, your brain will react first.

My "record" is 270 km/h (around 170 mph) and I did not feel comfortable to run higher. My comfort zone is 200 to 250 km/h (120 to 155 mph) and I don't plan to go higher in the future.

I think it's stupid to race on a public road, with regular users around.

 

Most people seem to have inbuild limiter which kicks in after few km's of fast driving. Result is drop in average speed to comfortable level. Usually this is higher among Porsche drivers than general public even if their cars can go that fast. For example in Finnish club trips to the Ring speeds drop fairly quickly to 160-200kph range on most people even if their cars can go 300+ and there is space on the road. It can also be fastest way of driving since fuel consumption goes up significanly above 2/3 of the rpm range on many cars. When each fillup is at least 7-10 minutes long going faster can mean actually going slower if driving distance is long enough to include multiple fillups.

 

It's surely an interesting point about the 40th anniversary party! Can you provide more details about it?

Racing and performance evaluations are entirely different. Jail mostly..

I agree that many people are not accustomed to the speed and once exposed to the level of concentration and fuel consumption will then realize how tiring it is to maintain.

I disagree about the engine comment, but to each their own.

 

+1

 

What happened to this?

 

Indeed. I'll go next year-mainly for the experience. The max speed runs are not my cup of tea anymore.

 

Nothing happened to this. My 928 isn't done, but that doesn't prevent me from doing the trip alone. I'm actually currently in Germany and covered 2,000+ miles in the past 10 days in this car, not my 928...

It's a brand new S Class turbo diesel. I'm admittedly getting old and don't feel safe taking a picture at 250kph+ with one hand and driving with the other on damp roads with traffic, so 220+ will have to do... (I've nicknamed it my "panzer")

In any event, I still want to organize such a trip with the 928.... However, with the up to date road network information and dynamic navigation in the newer cars, it will be a step back in an old car. Funny, I passed a 928 on the A5 yesterday and thought of this thread.

If my 928 isn't ready for the 2017 European meeting, I may attend with a rented "panzer"

Massage and ventilation seats are sooooo comfortable!

 

All the talk and then........ NOTHING! .

 

The thought never occurred to me that others with 928's would want to do a trip around Europe and take in the scenery if it wasn't a 928 specific tour.. If that's true, then I'm short sighted, and am sorry I didn't offer this trip as an opportunity to fellow forum members. Aside from my business meetings there was ample time to take in the scenery and enjoy great beer, wine and food in general.!

To everyone that was interested in the trip when I was planning to take my 928, is that still interesting as a trip even if I show up in a car that's not a 928???

My 928 isn't finished so I saw no need to organize a 928 specific trip in 2016. With the 2017 European reunion, that's another interesting thing to ponder, and maybe I'll get it finished..

However, I'm very comfortable about my 928 not being finished, and as much as imre can attempt derision directed at me, I will consider such deriding comment banter from a provocateur but worthwhile of entertainment.

So, here goes some entertainment....!

Imre, for someone you accused of just talking and doing nothing, it must be against the laws of physics that I'm still going around Europe in a new the "panzer" at speeds and over distances that for example another home built Paxton'd 928 can only dream about in fantasy land, and a supposed Mustang kept in Europe would expire after a few kilometers.

If you're so adamant and contentious about proving the fortuitous ability of your 928 and pilot abilities, you still have time to fly it over the weekend to Germany from Toronto and we can compare the time/distance exercise notes vis a vis my lowly S350 diesel powered "panzer". It could be easier to use the mustang as it's already in EU... Then it's just a ticket to pick it up at your European garage no? I mean I'm not using the big gun diesel, an M550D, just a lowly S350, so your exalted chariots should hands down be superior in all manner and give you some substantial advantage....

Tip... The roads in the north of Germany have less construction than in the south at the moment. The A6,7,8,9 all have construction as of this week... But, the A1 and A24 are in great shape.....! The A1 was actually recently finished so it's a sublime feeling at 220-250kph ... You're welcome to come experience it..

If you manage to make it over or not, I won't hold it against you

I'm going to use the A1 today to go up to the East Sea from Hamburg and eat some fish for lunch. I'd be happy to show you where it is if you make it in the next few days.

Nothing for you imre.... ??

Best regards

 

A good friend of mine lived in Germany and shipped his Corvette for the time he was there. Spent lots of money at the fuel stations, as I recall. At wide open on the unlimited roadways, he spent a ton of money, but was enjoyable, from his accounts. He used a single 20' crate to ship, each way.

Now him and another friend sent their Corvettes to France for Le Mans, again in a crate, but an awful experience. The crate was opened ("inspected", they said) and emblems along with other trim were ripped from the cars. It ruined an otherwise memorable experience.

It was suggested to use a RoRo service, or "roll on, roll off" which I see as a disaster. I would not cheap-out like that. On a brand new vehicle, as the manufacturers may use, it doesn't matter. Those are faceless vehicles. These are our cars.

Anyways, back to the trip. It sounded good until the excitement of watching other, perhaps homemade science projects grenading, was mentioned. Not a lot of camaraderie there.

I've toured the lower 48 and parts of Canada. Mostly at speed. Found Idaho to be perhaps the most beautiful. Montana was boring, and they do run RADAR. South Dakota was decent, and the speed limit is now 80. Anyways, point being, there are places close to home to go fast. So I'll probably drop my interest in the trip at this point. Have fun, and drive fast, if this ever happens. Cheers.

 

All your chest punding in the thread and flaking out at the end is very entertaining indeed. I don't need to prove anything, my car/s still runs. Even the old Mustange in grandma's garage. I'm not surprised at all that this went nowhere.

 

It's understandable that a party souring tone can be had if your car is damaged by the freight company. Sad to hear..

Ro ro can be an option, but the routes are limited, where a container shipped vehicle can be sent door to door. Aircraft is another option, but very expensive, so out for most people.

I think it depends on the forwarder and how they pack and secure the container. But, nothing is without risk.

Camaraderie with Imre... Sure, after all his demeaning comments, I still leave the door open even if I throw back the stink bombs he keeps on putting over the fence.....

I agree that you can go relatively fast in the usa. However, nothing compares to the Autobahn when it's unrestricted and you have a good car. My opinion, granted I have a biased one as I used to live in Germany and still get to drive there on a regular basis...

Thanks for the well wishes, I'm having a great time here and being very safe.

Best regards

 

The only person who went nowhere was you Imre.. I'm in Europe enjoying a trip that could be done in a 928. That the 928 trip wasn't done, doesn't mean I went nowhere.... The only thing on my part that went nowhere is my 928 is in the garage unfinished, which is not a reason for me to avoid enjoying such a trip and get some business done in Europe. Note to you, I do a trip like this almost every year, and many times several times per year. For me it's as easy as getting in a plane, nothing to it, and no big deal. I only offered to share the experience with members of the forum.... I've done this numerous times with other friends and business associates..

What possible involvement can you have in a trip of which you have no intention of participating, other than that of a petulant troll?

No chest thumping here Imre, again, just facts about a trip around Europe... I even took the time to share pictures of some parts of it with the forum.

It's clear that you don't understand that.

And by the way, all my cars run... That the 928 is not finished with the supercharger as I would like it to be does not mean it doesn't run....

Best regards