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Is any thread compound needed for the threads on my block coolant drain plugs?

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Old 05-07-2015, 06:27 PM
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Default Is any thread compound needed for the threads on my block coolant drain plugs?

Hi!
Replacing my block coolant drain plugs and washers, and I wonder if I need
to apply any type of thread compound to the plugs?
Thanks!!!!

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Old 05-07-2015, 06:49 PM
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I used some copper anti seize - be sure to re tighten to 25.8 Ftlbs when you put back in.
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Thank you!

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What are they made of? Mine are plastic and I've never used anything on them. They're blue.
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What ever you do do NOT tighten them back to spec, only do it until they are snug. Otherwise you will tear a chunk out of the block.

It has happened many times before, be careful. Otherwise just use some anti seize on them.
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Originally Posted by Otto Mechanic
What are they made of? Mine are plastic and I've never used anything on them. They're blue.
He said block. You are talking about the rad, which has only one and is blue plastic with a rubber washer.

I would change the gaskets.
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Originally Posted by SteveG
He said block. You are talking about the rad, which has only one and is blue plastic with a rubber washer.

I would change the gaskets.
OK, missed that. The torque numbers looked wrong too.

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Yup that spec torque is frighteningly high. Last time I changed coolant I think I generously gave them 20Nm (think that's around 15 ft lb), which was a little past snug.

Oh when I first got the car I discovered block bolts were only finger tight. Hadn't lost a drop of coolant so they were sealing even with torque that low.
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Originally Posted by giddyupp
I used some copper anti seize
Yes. Copper anti-seize.
- be sure to re tighten to 25.8 Ftlbs when you put back in.
No! The torque spec in the WSM and Spec books is wrong.

It's 26 Nm not 26 ft-lbs.

Originally Posted by The Forgotten On
What ever you do do NOT tighten them back to spec, only do it until they are snug. Otherwise you will tear a chunk out of the block.
Spot on.

The very first time, closing-in on 20 years ago, when I tightened the drain plugs I started the first one with the torque wrench. WAY before the spec was reached I could see the crush ring deforming to the point that it was about to be 'squirted out.'

A couple of years ago I progressively torqued four drain plugs and determined that the crush ring seals nicely at 26 N-m.

Thus, I think there was a translation error - or something - in the WSM.
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sometimes it is just better to use your hand

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-is-wrong.html
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
sometimes it is just better to use your hand
That's what she said!

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Originally Posted by worf928
No! The torque spec in the WSM and Spec books is wrong.
It's 26 Nm not 26 ft-lbs.

Newton-meters - might as well be Galileo-furlongs to me. Geez, ya told us the first time, in language we could understand.

Originally Posted by worf928
...Short story: it's 26 N-m, not 26 ft-lbs. (So, 26 N-m would be 19 ft-lbs.)
In this thread https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-is-wrong.html
PSA: IMO, the torque spec for the block drains is wrong!



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