the flyin' scotsman

With those who have removed a newer model clutch did you use the little brackets described in the WSM and if so what did you make them from?

A pic would be great.......thx

17prospective buyer

I made mine from some leftover flashing sheet metal. They're just 90 degree angles as described in WSM for pressure plate preload.

Rob Edwards

L shaped aluminum channel from Home Despot and a jigsaw. It's ~0.08" or ~2mm thick.

oups59

Exactly what I did ....

the flyin' scotsman

thx Rob.......Im still perplexed as to their purpose especially if your replacing the pressure plate.

Rob Edwards

They take some spring pressure off of the TOB/release arm, so you can wiggle them around and off of the pivot ball. Spacing the pressure plate 2mm back may not seem like much but it really helps.

Bilal928S4

Malcolm,
PM me your email. I have a clutch R&R that I received from a rennlister. Sorry don't remember who, that I could forward to you. Has a lot of pictures and is more informative then the WSM.

the flyin' scotsman

thx Rob......I don't believe that will be any issue as the TOB/release arm are very loose.

17prospective buyer

When it's bolted to the flywheel.. but when the bolts are loosened, the preload on the fingers is lost and they return to their natural position applying so much pressure that it's impossible to disassemble release arm from TOB. I could be wrong but that's why the manual suggests the shims before removal. You could probably use C-clamps and wood blocks if for some reason you didn't insert them before loosening the flywheel bolts, but why fight it?

Dave928S

Agree .... they perform the same function as the wire shims on the early clutches (pic below). When the PP bolts are loosened the release arm is drawn in, relative to the PP body, by the fingers, which makes dis-assembly a PITA/impossible.

The shims (early) or brackets (late) make the difference, even though it doesn't seem that they will, and that there appears to be plenty of clearance, before loosening of the bolts.

the flyin' scotsman

thx guys......I'll search the local home despot and fashion up some brackets.

Appreciate your inputs and pics........cheers.

the flyin' scotsman

so the new PP has arrived and has no shims in place.......now what?

Rob Edwards

C clamp (or if you're Greg, your bare freaking bearclaw hands....)

the flyin' scotsman

thx Rob............I tried the C-clamp method on the PP I took out and could barely move the damn thing. Ended up taking it to a machine shop to get the release arm off.

Hilton

Taking the clutch out, you just have to put the brackets in before removing the clutch pack.

Make sure they're oriented/sized so you can turn the clutch pack around to get at all 3 (use a long pry-bar to push the pressure plate away while you insert the spacers)

I just use small flat bits of 3mm aluminium - they don't need to be L-shaped like the wsm says.




For assembly, IIRC, setting it all up on the floor of the garage, then standing on the edge of the plate to push the fingers onto the release bearing works quite well

Lastly, while the clutch is out, remove and inspect the clutch ball and the CPS, and clean any corrosion in their holes. If the ball's been beaten on by the metal of the release arm (once the plastic cup has disintegrated) it can be out of round and need replacing. If you're like me, you can just replace it for the hell of it.