Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Upper "A" Arms TQ

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-27-2014, 10:33 PM
  #1  
77tony
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
77tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 8,421
Received 152 Likes on 116 Posts
Default Upper "A" Arms TQ

Could not find tq settings in the WSM's or searching here. TIA. T
Attached Images  
Old 10-27-2014, 11:10 PM
  #2  
Crumpler
Three Wheelin'
 
Crumpler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 1,701
Received 75 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Hey Tony, I got a spreadsheet of hard to find TQ's that somebody had passed around at some point hanging up in the shop FWIW.
Found three values for UCA:

UCA to frame rail 103 Ft. Lbs.
UCA to steering knuckle 48 Ft. Lbs.
UCA to support ring 63 Ft. Lbs.

Regards.
Old 10-28-2014, 12:10 AM
  #3  
Rob Edwards
Archive Gatekeeper
Rennlist Member
 
Rob Edwards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 17,495
Received 2,707 Likes on 1,310 Posts
Default

That's a good question, pretty sure I've never seen the torque spec for those bolts at the end of the upper control arm. (Manual says they're not user-serviceable....)

In the absence of a specific number I'd guess you can fall back on the default M10 value of 30 ft lbs, or the default M12 value of 63 ft lbs.

Anderson's rebuilder should know!
Old 10-28-2014, 01:23 AM
  #4  
77tony
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
77tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 8,421
Received 152 Likes on 116 Posts
Default

Thank you. T
Old 10-28-2014, 01:36 AM
  #5  
Rob Edwards
Archive Gatekeeper
Rennlist Member
 
Rob Edwards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 17,495
Received 2,707 Likes on 1,310 Posts
Default

'Cuz I cant remember whether thats an M10 (17 mm ) or M12 (19) nut. I'd guess 19, so 63 would be a good place to start. OTOH, it's torquing that bigass washer onto a rubber bushing, so maybe the torque value should be less? I'm sorry, just not sure in the absence of a published value.
Old 10-28-2014, 01:43 AM
  #6  
77tony
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
77tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 8,421
Received 152 Likes on 116 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
'Cuz I cant remember whether thats an M10 (17 mm ) or M12 (19) nut. I'd guess 19, so 63 would be a good place to start. OTOH, it's torquing that bigass washer onto a rubber bushing, so maybe the torque value should be less? I'm sorry, just not sure in the absence of a published value.
IIRC it's a 19 but I'll check tomorrow. T
Old 10-28-2014, 11:09 AM
  #7  
Tom in Austin
Rennlist Member
 
Tom in Austin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas!
Posts: 3,267
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

V. good question, when I put in my upper rebuilt arm I wondered about those too ... mine were not particularly tight, so I put my 1/2" torque wrench on them and racked them down pretty tight ... prob to 63 ft lbs as Rob said.

You would think the rebuilder would torque these as part of their process, so I was a little uncertain about making the bolts tighter ...
Old 10-28-2014, 06:55 PM
  #8  
Ad0911
Rennlist Member
 
Ad0911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,958
Received 62 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Crumpler
Hey Tony, I got a spreadsheet of hard to find TQ's that somebody had passed around at some point hanging up in the shop FWIW.
Found three values for UCA:

UCA to frame rail 103 Ft. Lbs.
UCA to steering knuckle 48 Ft. Lbs.
UCA to support ring 63 Ft. Lbs.

Regards.
Any chance for us amateurs to find that spreadsheet of forgotten TQ's somewhere?
Old 10-28-2014, 07:10 PM
  #9  
77tony
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
77tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 8,421
Received 152 Likes on 116 Posts
Default

19mm it is. T
Old 10-28-2014, 07:33 PM
  #10  
ajricker
Racer
 
ajricker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Machias, Wa.
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

The torque values are in the Technical Specifications handbook. It's the little pocket sized book. It has all the torque values I've needed so far. I found mine in the glovebox when I bought the car. I'm not sure if they're still available Maybe Roger can chime in.
Love the color of your cars T.
Old 10-28-2014, 11:04 PM
  #11  
Crumpler
Three Wheelin'
 
Crumpler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 1,701
Received 75 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ad0911
Any chance for us amateurs to find that spreadsheet of forgotten TQ's somewhere?
I got my sheets as a gracious gesture from the maestro Scott Yoo (syoo8).

I'm sure he wouldn't mind if I paid it forward, I will look and see if I saved the actual file somewhere. It may even be up on his new web site.

In the meantime, I think I found the little book that AJRicker speaks of on one of the Morehouse CD's that Roger sells.
Someone may be able to confirm, it's a cool little book.


Name:  IMG_1001 (598x800).jpg
Views: 118
Size:  268.9 KB
Old 10-28-2014, 11:20 PM
  #12  
ajricker
Racer
 
ajricker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Machias, Wa.
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

That's it
Old 10-28-2014, 11:22 PM
  #13  
Rob Edwards
Archive Gatekeeper
Rennlist Member
 
Rob Edwards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 17,495
Received 2,707 Likes on 1,310 Posts
Default

I will bet a (new) 928 oil filter that the torque value for that particular front upper A-arm bolt is not in the WSM, nor any of the Technical Spec books. Happy to be wrong.
Old 10-28-2014, 11:28 PM
  #14  
SeanR
Rennlist Member
 
SeanR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 35,700
Received 500 Likes on 267 Posts
Default

I keep looking for that little booklet and each time I bid on one, I lose. I bet Rog does have a dozen of them, need to ask.
Old 10-29-2014, 12:07 AM
  #15  
Crumpler
Three Wheelin'
 
Crumpler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 1,701
Received 75 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
I will bet a (new) 928 oil filter that the torque value for that particular front upper A-arm bolt is not in the WSM, nor any of the Technical Spec books. Happy to be wrong.
Hmmm.

I might have found it Rob.
It's like microscopic font, and not worded well if it's describing "support plate on link pin (upper control arm)", but the math comes out at 85 newton meters which equals 62.69 ft. lbs.


Name:  IMG_1006 (598x800).jpg
Views: 107
Size:  268.1 KB

If I win, I will bequeath my prize to Art since he came up with the source.


Quick Reply: Upper "A" Arms TQ



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:51 AM.