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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 928cs
Two Z-orders, indeed. One for the piping of the seats, certainly, and another for the stripes, maybe.
I can't read the two Z-orders codes which are the two last with 5 figures.
thanks Samuel
last 5 digit codes are 00371 and 04751
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WP0JB0927KS860620

1989 S4 Automatic
C02 - 49 state US market car
M28.42 - engine serial # range 81K 05001>10000
A28.16 - transmission serial # range G 2812 1K 00001>10000 (no LSD)

M018 - Sport steering wheel with elevated hub 30mm
I158 - Blaupunkt radio Reno SQR46 - 87-89
M418 - Protective side mouldings
M570 - Rear AC
I586 - Lumbar support - left seat (12 way seat, includes lumbar memory if I537 (positrol) also present)
M650 - Sunroof
I980 - Seat cover - draped leather
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Old Sep 29, 2023 | 11:50 PM
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Two Z-orders, indeed. One for the piping of the seats, certainly, and another for the stripes, maybe.
I can't read the two Z-orders codes which are the two last with 5 figures.
Build sheet lists the two Z options as:

00321- linen carpet, and

04251, front and back seat piping in leather.
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Old Sep 30, 2023 | 01:03 AM
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Welcome Ottawadesi- Apologies for missing your request, been a couple of busy days.

WP0JB0927KS860620
Invoice date 11/15/88
Warranty start date 10/18/89
Production # 1291439
Color: C7- Baltic Blue Metallic
Seats: TW1- Linen/medium blue
Carpet: 2XF- linen



1989 S4 automatic
C02 -49 state US market
M28.42 - engine serial # range 81K 05001>10000
A28.16 - transmission serial # range G 2812 1K 00001>10000 (no LSD)

M018 - Sport steering wheel with elevated hub 30mm
I158 - Blaupunkt radio Reno SQR46 - 87-89
M418 - Protective side moldings
M570 - Rear AC
I586 - Lumbar support - left seat (12 way seat, includes lumbar memory if I537 (positrol) also present)
M650 - Sunroof
I980 - Seat cover - draped leather
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Old Sep 30, 2023 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Welcome Ottawadesi- Apologies for missing your request, been a couple of busy days.

WP0JB0927KS860620
Invoice date 11/15/88
Warranty start date 10/18/89
Production # 1291439
Color: C7- Baltic Blue Metallic
Seats: TW1- Linen/medium blue
Carpet: 2XF- linen



1989 S4 automatic
C02 -49 state US market
M28.42 - engine serial # range 81K 05001>10000
A28.16 - transmission serial # range G 2812 1K 00001>10000 (no LSD)

M018 - Sport steering wheel with elevated hub 30mm
I158 - Blaupunkt radio Reno SQR46 - 87-89
M418 - Protective side moldings
M570 - Rear AC
I586 - Lumbar support - left seat (12 way seat, includes lumbar memory if I537 (positrol) also present)
M650 - Sunroof
I980 - Seat cover - draped leather
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Old Sep 30, 2023 | 02:20 PM
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Ri @Rob Edwards - first of all, I cannot express enough gratitude for what you did and are doing with your contributions to FB and RL and in particular this thread, which was immensely helpful in my decision to buy my 1991 GT as I’m sure it has been for hundreds of folks to date.

I still follow this thread and always excited to learn about the various ways our cars were optioned. Those X and Z codes always start a fascinating conversation (and often lead me down the RL rabbit hole reading old threads about them). My car was initially advertised as an “S” then and “S4”. After the first telltales (6600 RPM redline, water temp with numbered markings) this thread is probably the reason I pulled the trigger. Yes, I should’ve probably listened more to the “buy the best one you can afford” advice but that one is in me. The car is overall solid and i’m committed to constant improvement….

I noticed that you recently listed interior codes. Do you have these for 1991 VINs or is this a sporadic thing that just happened to be In the database?. Without the trunk and service book stickers I’ve been trying to confirm mine for a while. I was able to pick a small piece under the reupholstery which I’m pretty sure is classic gray but unsure to what extent (I.e carpet, dash etc - black vs classic gray). If you have those available I’d love to validate for WP0AA2928MS810424.

Thank you again for everything!
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Hi Eran-

The fun for me is the archaeology of the option codes- not sure _why_ I find it interesting but some people just have the geekout gene.

RE: the interior codes, I have some data for some cars but it's pretty spotty- RE: your '91 GT, this is what I have:

Production number: 1211897
Interior code MX- Classic Gray, faux leather/leather
Seat Combination- APL (Classic Gray, full leather comfort seat, non-heated. If you could still buy a driver's seat for your car from Porsche the full part number would be 928 521 001 86 APL)
Carpet color code 4XR - classic gray carpet


For what it's worth, Porsche published a 'handbook' of interior color codes- I assume there was one for each model year or at least one for each time that they changed the interior color schemes. I only have the '92 version, but it includes Classic Gray. Here are two pages that show what trim piece was what color for a given code:












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Old Sep 30, 2023 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Hi Eran-

The fun for me is the archaeology of the option codes- not sure _why_ I find it interesting but some people just have the geekout gene.

RE: the interior codes, I have some data for some cars but it's pretty spotty- RE: your '91 GT, this is what I have:

Production number: 1211897
Interior code MX- Classic Gray, faux leather/leather
Seat Combination- APL (Classic Gray, full leather comfort seat, non-heated. If you could still buy a driver's seat for your car from Porsche the full part number would be 928 521 001 86 APL)
Carpet color code 4XR - classic gray carpet


For what it's worth, Porsche published a 'handbook' of interior color codes- I assume there was one for each model year or at least one for each time that they changed the interior color schemes. I only have the '92 version, but it includes Classic Gray. Here are two pages that show what trim piece was what color for a given code:




I totally get the archeology part. I enjoy reading more and more about these cars. A lifetime ago and a continent away I used to own an 82 euro S and while I enjoyed driving it (a 20 year old car back then), I was too young to appreciate the lineage that preceded and followed it, plus the internet really wasn’t the resource it is today.

the information you provided is super helpful. I did see the words MX come up in one of the VIN searches but wasn’t sure how it affected the dash, consoles, carpets, lower part of door cards etc. I don’t want to peel my otherwise clean white upholstery so now I know what I need.

I’m going to start a search for classic gray trim and carpet. I will likely Re-trim my seats or buy cores and send off to the upholsterer (Roger made a recommendation for Classic 9 which I’ll likely follow).

many thanks!
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My new to me 928.

WP0JB0927FS860932

Thanks!
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WP0JB0927FS860932

1985 Automatic
C36 - Canadian market
M28.44 - engine serial # range 81F 05001>10000
A28.04 - transmission serial # range 16 F 00001>05000

I158 - Blaupunkt Monterey SQR23 (2 channel)
M418 - Protective side mouldings
M490 - Hi-Fi sound system ( 8 speakers, balance control, 1980-86.5) ("Equipment Group IV")
M494 - Additional Amp (4x15W, 1981+), Blaupunkt BQA-80
M533 - Alarm
M650 - Sunroof
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WP0AA2923MS810296

1991 S4 automatic
C02 - 49 state US market
M28.42 - engine serial # range 81 M 50001 >60000
A28.16 - transmission serial # range A 2816 3M 00001>20000
Production number 1211444
Black exterior, black interior
Invoice date 2-5-91
Warranty in-service date 2-20-92


I158 - Blaupunkt Stuttgart 7 649 881 070 1991 only
M418 - Protective side moldings
I498 - Deletion of model designation on rear end
I570 - Rear AC
M650 - Sunroof
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Hey Rob! Could you look into 92A0800682?
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Sure:

92A0800682

1980 Euro (non S)
C00 - German market
000000 - No engine code but should be M28.09, engine serial # range 800 0001>5000
G00000 - No transmission code, but will either be a G28.03 or a G28.05. Transmission serial number range will either be 11 00001>05000 (G28.03), or 11 05001>09999 (G28.05)


M197 - Stronger battery (88 Ah)
M261 - Outside mirror - plain-passenger's side, electrically adjustable and heatable
I288 - Headlight washer
I401 - Light alloy wheels, 'manhole covers
I425 - Rear wiper
M533 - Alarm
M650 - Sunroof
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