Nick Spyder

1990 WP0JB2922LS860330

1989 WP0ZZZ92ZKS841341

Thank you. Congrats on your new GT! Got a chance to see it in person last week; beautiful car.

Rob Edwards

WP0JB2922LS860330


1990
928 GT
C03 - California car
M28.47
G28.55

M158 - Radio Reno
M418- Side moldings
M498- Without rear model designation
M570- Rear A/C
M650- Sunroof


WP0ZZZ92ZKS841341

1989
C00
M28.41
G28.12

I139- Seat heating, left
I298- Prepared for unleaded fuel, manual transmission
I326- Radio - Blaupunkt Berlin
M462- Sekuriflex windshield
I586- Lumbar support, left seat

Nick Spyder

Thank you. Any insight on C00 code, I298- Prepared for unleaded fuel, manual transmission, and M462- Sekuriflex windshield? I've never come across these before.

Dave928S

C00 ... Germany ... Country code
M462 ... A plastic coating on the inside of the windscreen, in addition to the middle laminated layer, to reduce injury to occupants from glass shards. The only problem with it is that it scratches more easily, as many have found when using a razor blade to take registration labels off.
I298 ... Don't have definitive info ... but, must be related to timing alterations to account for lower octane unleaded. Australian cars were altered to allow for the crappy fuel when unleaded was first introduced here. Others should have more specific info.

Rob Edwards

Rats, I'm generating pretty pics, and Dave is answering the question.


C00 is just the country code,that car was 1st sold in Germany.


I298 is specifies a particular coding plug on the brain bracket for the combo of transmissions, fuel type, and country of origin. See below.

Sekuriflex is just a particular type of safety glass laminated windshield.


Coding plugs:

Dave928S

Always like your pics Rob ..

Prior to coding plugs, cars in Australia and presumably elsewhere, had different vac advance and retard configurations on the distributors to account for lower octane fuels. Can't recall there being an option listed for this however.

Nick Spyder

Thank you. Any cautionary comments regarding a car with I298 option - doesn't sound so common or desirable? Car was imported from Germany and has Euro gauges, headlight dimmers, and no bumperettes at back end. Not sure what I might be getting myself into. Am also looking at 1990 GT US car (other VIN Rob looked up for me).

89 Euro doesn't have a sunroof or rear air. 90 has both. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

Vilhuer

On '87-95 ROW cars M298 and M299 just mean same engine including ECU's, catalytic converter exhaust, fuel tank and stickers as C02 US model. '87-88 low grade fuel version for Australia was indicated by C23 country code and IIRR didn't use separate M code like '85 MY M151.

Rob Edwards

Sunroofless '89 5-speed Euro vs. U.S. 90 GT is a tough call- The Euro is an X-pipe and a Sharktune away from being as fast as the GT, and if you're more than 6'1" or long-torsoed, the no-sunroof is a nice and novel feature in the States. But the GT is a GT and has PSD vs. an open diff on the '89. Than again the '90 has the iffy airbag system while the '89 doesn't. But the 90 has the much more modern-looking airbag dash, unless it's cracked...

Bottom line, need to know more about the condition, miles, maintenance history, and cosmetics of each, and the rough asking prices before being able to pontificate much more....

Hilton

No sunroof is the deciding factor IMO. If you're tall-ish, then its much more comfortable to have no sunroof (or if you want to track the car and wear a helmet, and are over about 5'11).

Fitting an LSD into the 89 isn't hard - and it can use any year LSD from 83-89. The shim calculations etc. are very well documented in the workshop manual.

Nick Spyder

Thank you all for your guidance and advice. A bit more information:

1990 GT is black, black leather, 90k miles, sunroof, enhanced air, rub stripes, no tramp stamp, new tires, new battery, new clutch, new brakes, power steering rebuilt, clean interior with only blemish on driver's bolster, very good paint, no accidents, TB/WP 2 years ago/2k miles ago, $15k firmish

1989 Euro 5-speed is metallic grey, black leather interior, no sunroof, no enhanced air, interior is good not great, two thin front to back lines in dash; momo steering wheel, needs serious repainting and very minor body work (parking lot scrap stuff), gauges in Km and German; needs total brake rebuild all 4 corners, Ac/climate, tires, TB/WP, battery, probably other stuff. Generally sat for 2-3 years outside. $7k negotiable with fair amount of room.

Additional thoughts/comments please. Thanks in advance.

Rob Edwards

That's easy. The GT, unless you're going to be on track a bunch, and thus don't care about cosmetics, will be wearing a helmet, and will be upgrading the brakes anyway.

GT is the obvious street car choice, Euro is the obvious track car choice other than its lack of LSD.

Andre The Giant

Can someone check this VIN for me please:

WPOJB0928FS861913

The only option that I know about on my car is M401 Phonedial wheels 16 x 7j

Rob Edwards

WP0JB0928FS861913

1985

C36, Eh? (EDIT: Non?)

M28.44
A28.04

M139- Seat Heating - Left
I158- Radio Monterey
M220- LSD
M340- Seat heating - Right
M401-Wheel-cast aluminium alloy, telephone design, rim 7"X16, tire 225/50 VR 16
M418- Protective side moldings
M490- Hi-Fi Sound system
M494- Additional amp
M533- Alarm
M650- Sunroof

Andre The Giant

Thank you Rob, very much appreciated, I can now put this in my records.
Yes C36 means Canada and it's right at home ! LOL