The Fixer

Yeah, it's a shame to paint them.

I miss driving it George.

What do you all think about the heavy aluminum bumpers, (I removed them totally when i did my IROC 911, and got rear ended a few years later)
would you drill the heck out of them (neatly of course) or remove them altogether.

If drilled, you'd (or I) would have to remove material where it compromised the bumper strength the least. Lot of work for little benefit i am sure. I tried drilling a 3" hole in the driver's rear corner (can be seen in pic above) and it was taking a while..
Porsche would never remove them with a road going RS (illegal) but i'm tempted..

jorj7

If you plan on driving the car on the street, I'd keep the aluminum bumpers on the car. Too many thing can happen on the road that you don't have control over. I've left mine alone, so I couldn't help you with the how's or what's to remove. I know many track 928 have had their bumpers removed, but I don't know if any have just lightened them.

George
90 S4 Grand Prix White (Murf #5)
94 GTS 5-Speed Midnight Blue
06 Cayenne S Havanna/Sand Beige (PASM)
http://928.jorj7.com

FLYVMO

Keep 'em. Cheap insurance that your car MAY not be totaled the next time. Without them, it will be a bent frame for sure instead of possibly just bent bumpers and bumper shocks.

Nice work, excellent thread!

Cheers!
Carl

jorj7

Matt,

Your solution for covering the head light squirters will look a lot better then mine. I just left the tape on that spot. Here's a shot after I removed all the tape after the last race, still have a lot of residue left on there:



Also I updated my Splitter/Air Dam page last week with some more details and photos. I don't think you need anything like what I have (since you're not Open Road Racing yours), but it could give you some more ideas. Having a disposable/sacrificial air dam has some advantages when driving on the street.

http://928.jorj7.com/airdam

George
90 S4 Grand Prix White (Murf #5)
94 GTS 5-Speed Midnight Blue
06 Cayenne S Havanna/Sand Beige (PASM)
http://928.jorj7.com

The Fixer

Well put Carl and George, I think I'll be keeping the bumpers this time around.

And I will look at your airdam George, thanks.

Nice patina on that road racer George, if you brought the squirter hole tape from top (edge of piping) to bottom (lens recess) it wouldn't look bad at all.

The Fixer

Bumper compromise, feel better having tried to shave a few.

Packing up for a Jersey Shore boardwalk day tomorrow, see you soon.

The Fixer

Received John's 84-86 Euro LH intake, there is a difference.
I am most excited about the size of the throttle body. But the O.D. of the euro intake tubes seem to average 61 mils larger than their US counterpart.
Manufacture dates on castings of Euro intake is 1983 (83), which is very nice..
No idea on I.D. size difference of intake tubes which is most important, hoping that is a big one..

Thanks John.

More fat trimming of bumpers while still on the car, more while off i am sure..

2.5 hours just detailing the Ducktail for primer, PITA

Roof is also a PITA, skim coat and black sanding over and over, getting close.

In hindsight and or (future sunroof deletion) i would be better off removing it and welding in a roof panel.

Removal of front and rear bumpers are easy and will make painting the tub more complete.

Signing off for a while,lots of prep work.
Best,-Matt

Mrmerlin

Matt your really doing a great job with all of the mods and other trick ideas you have .

I have been thinking about your color choice for the project.

I am a bit biased towards this color but it may be the coolest thing you could do as there wont be anything like it.

I think the blue has been played out for a while, though I can see why you might like this color,
so it associates the car to a racing themed machine,
this blue color would make it more recognizable to most Porsche fans.

However I think this would make your project even more unique and since your down to bare metal this is easy to do.

I was going to suggest to paint the car Porsche Lime Gold,
with your painting skills it should be easy for you to do.

I think it would make the car even that much more special,
as most will not have ever seen this color and how cool and different it can be.
Just my 2 cents , its something to think about,
Also your interior could be color changed to black or Carmel/tan.

At any rate whatever you do I am sure it will look great.

The Fixer

George, I'd like to see more of your Road racing, looked for but dd not see a thread. I find it very cool as racing began this way and 200 MPH is very hard to achieve, I will be making an airdam like the one you have made.

Stan Thanks, you were a huge help the first time i dove into the 928 model for repaint.
But I have already bought the Gulf Blue and it's been a dream of mine for a while to own a Porsche in this hue blue. I don't think i've ever seen a 928 in Gulf Blue (911 RS clones though).
The color you advise is indeed a beautiful choice (like your S4) but I have to know how the Blue will look on a 928. I want it to scream race bred, to show off this Porsche model as a choice for sports car enthusiasts.

I'll be finished prep work tomorrow and begin cleaning out the shop area. I will blow the shop out and put away all of the body work tools.

I think it would be wise to get the body painted and put the car in one of the regular bays out of the way. Then paint the hood and hatch with ducktail, then fenders and doors and then all the other bits.

Stan, I will be stripping the black off my strut brace and polishing it as you advised long ago. That will look great and be a few grams lighter!
I will also replace the strut inserts while the fenders are off the car.

Taking my time i seam sealed the crossmember and ground the hood pin welds and seam sealed them (would puddle water) and finally hammered that big dent out of the rear cross member.
With a little luck the car should be painted the next time i post. I always take it very seriously, things can go wrong. Thanks again Stan for weighing in your opinion means a lot to me.

John Speake

Here's some info on George's ORR car. http://www.jdsporsche.com/Customer%20cars.html

George also has his own website http://928.jorj7.com/

The Fixer

Thanks John, and why isn't this written about in Excellence?

Starting to think there's enough interesting Car people here to warrant a 928 Mag.

BTW, I'd like to lower the car 1" spring suggestions anyone?

John Speake

There was "928 Forum" magazine a few years ago which was good. I think it stopped due to the time demands it put on the people publishing it.

jorj7

In fact I had an article in that magazine, Fall 2002... Here's a link on my site of the article:

http://928.jorj7.com/forum3/index.html

I also did an article in 2008 for another magazine, Autobahn Ambitions about 928s in Open Road Racing:

http://928.jorj7.com/pdf/

And a page on the NorCal928 site with Bill Ball in 2010:

http://www.norcal928.org/road_racing_2010.htm

Matt,

Here are links to existing Open Road Racing organizations:

Silver State Classic Challenge: http://sscc.us/

Big Bend Open Road Race: http://bborr.com/

Sandhilll Open Road Challange: http://www.sorcrace.com/

George
90 S4 Grand Prix White (Murf #5)
94 GTS 5-Speed Midnight Blue
06 Cayenne S Havanna/Sand Beige (PASM)
http://928.jorj7.com

jorj7

The OB has a different suspension set up then the S4. On my car I'm running a front ride height of 135 mm. This up from a low of 115 mm, but less the the 165-175 mm stock setting. On my car, the Koni externally adjustable shock have adjusters that allow you to raise or lower the car. I don't think that you can do that with your car without changing some of the suspension components.

George
90 S4 Grand Prix White (Murf #5)
94 GTS 5-Speed Midnight Blue
06 Cayenne S Havanna/Sand Beige (PASM)
http://928.jorj7.com

The Fixer

Boy that would be fun to publish..

Thanks George, I will read up on the Road Racing organizations while we are down at the Shore, going for a last Summer Hurrah before they're back to school.. getting close to priming.
-Matt