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E15 - devil's brew

Old 01-12-2013, 03:22 PM
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I recently received an email from a friend regarding the corrosive nature of E15 gasoline; our wonderful EPA and pres obooba taking care of us again.

Don't know if anyone posted this warning but it apparently is jungle rot for cars older than 2012. It is supposed to be horrific for gas lines and fuel injection systems. It would seem to make sense to avoid all E-type gasolines.

Comments on this stuff would be helpful. Comments on obooba not needed; it's too late.
Old 01-12-2013, 03:37 PM
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http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2000862202001/

Need to get this crap out of our gas.
Old 01-12-2013, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SeanR
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2000862202001/

Need to get this crap out of our gas.
You'll have to break the farmers first..they drive this.
Old 01-12-2013, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
You'll have to break the farmers first..they drive this.
They should get used to selling at market price instead of the goobermint paying them for it. Another great idea, lets put food in our cars.
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I live in an area that realies heavily on Ethonal for the local economy. Yes, it is a bubble ready to break. It makes little sense as a fuel when you consider the amout of water resources and fossil fuel it takes to make each gallon.
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As Dylan Ratigan from Fast Money said just before closing the show "ethanol is a scam!" Doesn't it also just drive up food prices and not really help the fuel crisis since even with the entire surface area of earth devoted to crops used for ethanol (corn, sugar cane etc), we could not replace gasoline with ethanol fully?

Actually i think sugar cane has potential for ethanol production more so than corn since it has higher sugar content. Still bad news for older fuel systems either way.
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Originally Posted by Bjbpe
It is supposed to be horrific for gas lines and fuel injection systems.
But E10 is fine.

This is scaremongering for those who are susceptible to fear-based propaganda. Name-calling would mark you as one of those.

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Originally Posted by GlenL
But E10 is fine.

This is scaremongering for those who are susceptible to fear-based propaganda. Name-calling would mark you as one of those.

Says you OooGlenllooo.




I resisted calling that out...wasnt easy.
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E15 isn't going to corrode anything. I've done testing with 928 components and E85 and have seen ZERO problems.
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We need to give the subsidies from corn ethanol production to people investing studies and production in 'blue oil'! Tubes filled with a special engineered algae or cyanobacteria give off oil as part of photosynthesis. In addition, they also use CO2 in the process and give off oxygen as well! So essentially in an ideal world, your car would put out exhaust gasses which would be reused to make more oil. Hence, why it is called 'blue' and not green; It is carbon neutral. This is where I think our world needs to look, as it means we don't have to stop loving the internal combustion engine, and worries of oil shortages or the 'plateau' would be a thing of the past.
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I use E85 in my race car and it works really well for turbocharged applications because it is very stable and unlikely to per-detonate, but I can tell you my fuel system takes a beating form it (especially the injectors and fuel pumps)

Originally Posted by brealytrent
We need to give the subsidies from corn ethanol production to people investing studies and production in 'blue oil'! Tubes filled with a special engineered algae or cyanobacteria give off oil as part of photosynthesis. In addition, they also use CO2 in the process and give off oxygen as well! So essentially in an ideal world, your car would put out exhaust gasses which would be reused to make more oil. Hence, why it is called 'blue' and not green; It is carbon neutral. This is where I think our world needs to look, as it means we don't have to stop loving the internal combustion engine, and worries of oil shortages or the 'plateau' would be a thing of the past.
+1, that technology has always seemed to be intentionally sidelined :/
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^shhhh. You'll end up dead talking that way
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Originally Posted by GlenL
But E10 is fine.

This is scaremongering for those who are susceptible to fear-based propaganda. Name-calling would mark you as one of those.
Originally Posted by Fabio421
E15 isn't going to corrode anything. I've done testing with 928 components and E85 and have seen ZERO problems.

I have no idea what either one of those statements mean, would someone please explain them to my feeble little mind.

Has anyone bought a weed eater, chain saw or any other gas power tool lately? Read the manual. They all specifically say to avoid ethanol fuel and DO NOT leave ethanol in the system for extended periods. Put the weed whacker away in the fall with ethanol fuel and you are most certain to have problems in the spring. My snow blower didn't get used last winter and this year the carb is all plugged up again from ethanol even though it had stabilizer in it. I try to use straight gas (no ethanol) in all my small engines but sometimes "uninformed help" grabs the wrong can.

So what is the real story of ethanol?
Old 01-12-2013, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GlenL
But E10 is fine.

This is scaremongering for those who are susceptible to fear-based propaganda. Name-calling would mark you as one of those.
Glen, you may want to check the man's credentials before you call it scare mongering.........
I suspect he has some experience in this arena.
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And, just as a note, the black "ring around the exhaust" is due to the purity of the product. There's no way there's any "Corn Syrup" in there rght?
Somehow I don't recall having to clean this crap up years ago.....but.....

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